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Old Oct 4, 2007
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so what does this kit do for you? For a DD would this be worth the money?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007
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so what do you have for a manual? is there anything you can do for a manual besides a better than stock clutch?
 
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Originally Posted by 99RangerXLT
so what does this kit do for you? For a DD would this be worth the money?

much firmer shifts, less tranny slip, jsut stronger all around.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007
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In this valve body rebuild are any servos replaced?

Especially the EPC?
 
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In this valve body rebuild are any servos replaced?

Especially the EPC?

yes should be all new.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2007
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Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
the EPC is addressed with this kit.
http://www.superior-transmission.com...tion/4r44e.htm

as well as the coast clutch springs, that have to be installed when the trans is torn down.

fluid flow through the cooler is also addressed with the fluid temp "by-pass" valve.

it has two stages to slect from, and can be had for less then 50 bucks

Modifications made in this Correction Package will allow the use of the less expensive EPC. Solenoid if replacing.
Sounds like a shift kit to me. Leaving you with the option of buying a new epc.

I have an ebay rebuild showing signs of a failing epc out of the box. My original is need a rebuild/upgrade. (no reverse) I wouldn't mind paying 250 for a rebuilt valve body with at least a new epc.

I've already installed a trans go kit so this is more a convenience/time saving factor. Well if i plan to rebuild my own 5r.
 
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Rebuild on your new/rebuilt one or the original? If its just the EPC that does not sound like its too hard to fix.
 
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Ok guys, if you want a little tech info on this kit, here it is...

Brand new epc, all shift solenoids, updated separator plate and gaskets, custom recalibration kit(not just a superior kit), CLEAN and INSPECTED VALVE BODY!!!!!!

The superior kit offers a thermo blocker that bypasses the computer controls for the transmission cooler... This causes PROBLEMS!!! Shudder can be a result of installing this amongst other things as well. 99% of everything inside the valve body is replaced with new components and all bores are measured to be sure they are within specs, and if not, oversize parts are installed to prevent pressure loss or misdirection. You cannot beat this kit for the price. You can purchase a superior kit for less than $50, but then you have to worry about installing it correctly, cleaning the valve body inside and out, and having to run for more parts.

The use of a shift kit, such as the superior kit, when trying to fix the well known valve body issues, is only "prolonging" your transmissions failure.

My kit includes everything but fluid to complete this installation and everything is pre-assembled so you do not have to worry about something being installed wrong.

Any further questions are welcome!

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Old Oct 5, 2007
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Originally Posted by NicksterSVT
Ok guys, if you want a little tech info on this kit, here it is...

Brand new epc, all shift solenoids, updated separator plate and gaskets, custom recalibration kit(not just a superior kit), CLEAN and INSPECTED VALVE BODY!!!!!!

The superior kit offers a thermo blocker that bypasses the computer controls for the transmission cooler... This causes PROBLEMS!!! Shudder can be a result of installing this amongst other things as well. 99% of everything inside the valve body is replaced with new components and all bores are measured to be sure they are within specs, and if not, oversize parts are installed to prevent pressure loss or misdirection. You cannot beat this kit for the price. You can purchase a superior kit for less than $50, but then you have to worry about installing it correctly, cleaning the valve body inside and out, and having to run for more parts.

The superior shift kit is only "prolonging" your transmissions failure.

My kit includes everything but fluid to complete this installation and everything is pre-assembled so you do not have to worry about something being installed wrong.

Any further questions are welcome!

I don't understand a word what you said Nick but I know and respect you and your work so you have me sold (when the time comes that is)
 
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i spent about 2 hours on it. about ready to drop the trans but stopped because i had other things planned tonight. hopefully ill be driving it tomorrow afternoon.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007
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Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
i have been running the superior kit for over a year now with ZERO problems like you describe, i'll copy your post and send it to the tech guys at superior and reply there responce here.

I have an idea... GET A LIFE!!!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007
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Can someone get him a muzzle??

Anywho.. beard, while you are at it man, upgrade your tranny cooler.. get the biggest one you can, that might help a lot.. if not... when you have the trans out, run some air through the lines and get them cleared out.... i had a tranny rebuilt on my first ranger.. long story short, i overheated the tranny, looked as though i had a partial clog in my cooler not allow sufficient cooling...

can't wait to hear the results!
 
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thanks Chris. I have an extra cooler right now. so it goes through the radiator then the stock cooler, then another cooler then back to the tranny.
 
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thanks Chris. I have an extra cooler right now. so it goes through the radiator then the stock cooler, then another cooler then back to the tranny.

That could cause low flow. You do need to clean the lines out. Brake cleaner and an air line work well, but are very messy. I would definitely run only one aftermarket cooler or both stock, but not all together. I dont like the cooler in the radiator, your cooling system is designed to run 195 degrees and you want your transmission around 150.....
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007
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I dont like the cooler in the radiator, your cooling system is designed to run 195 degrees and you want your transmission around 150.....
i have mine setup where it goes into the radiator then out to a B&M cooler, then to the tranny.....the highest i have seen tranny temps setup this way is 160*....that was when it was 110* outside driving around town.....

if this install of these parts isn't too hard, i might have to buy them and install them!
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
i have mine setup where it goes into the radiator then out to a B&M cooler, then to the tranny.....the highest i have seen tranny temps setup this way is 160*....that was when it was 110* outside driving around town.....

if this install of these parts isn't too hard, i might have to buy them and install them!

Zach is in the process of installing it right now... Im sure he will give plenty of feedback once he has completed this feat!

Edit: What I was saying about the cooler in the radiator is that to me it seems as if it would heat the fluid before going into the external cooler making it harder to cool... I have seen lower tranny temps with this kit, but not in every vehicle.
 
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i sure hope so.....and i hope he learns how cause i might see if he will help!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007
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Very nice Zach, hopefully I'll get to drive it soon
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007
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when you have the trans out, run some air through the lines and get them cleared out.

Becareful with this, I ended up with a fresh undercoat of mercon V.
 
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well its done and drives freaking awesome. i still need to let the computer go through the shifts and learn it over the next few days but its like a new trans.

1 thing i do like is the extended 2-3 shift.

a few things that would have saved alot of time.

and extra helper. lining the tranny back up by yourself is not fun.
bench pressing a transmission is not a good idea either lol
bench pressing the transfer case is not fun either.

basically i didnt like the work to get to the trans and to get it back together.

the actual tranny work i enjoyed.

ive got pics and ill get video later. for now its time for bed.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2007
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Im glad to hear you enjoyed the work, I swear i tore a disc in my low back doing my swap.

Ive decided to rebuild my extra valve body and swap it into my trans.

For those looking for pricing on parts alone. I have found a nice site. http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/me...ory_Code=4R44E

However, Nick's pricing for this work is very reasonable. At least on the vb work.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2007
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Originally Posted by Blhde
However, Nick's pricing for this work is very reasonable. At least on the vb work.

Side note: I may be working with a company to be able to offer a much better price on the converters.
 
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