Soft Pedal after change
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Soft Pedal after change
I have a 1994 ranger 2.3L 5 speed with 200,000. I had a clutch master cylinder leak. I changed the clutch master cylinder and the slave cylinder. I went through the bleeding process several times and still can't quiet get enough pressure in the slave cylinder to to shift gears smoothly. Should I have replaced the pressure plate as well? As far as I know it's original. Yes, I know it would have been easier to replace everything at once but I thought this was a simple clutch leak.
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01-25-2022
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Rangers came with 2 different types of pressure plates, regular and self adjusting, or previous owner could have used either
Regular looks like this: https://ic.carid.com/sachs/items/3082654412_3.jpg
Self adjusting looks like this: https://www.partsgeek.com/assets/rep...90-1001987.jpg
Self adjusting has 3 springs around the main "finger springs", these 3 springs move the pressure plate closer to fly wheel as the clutch Disc wears down, so clutch pedal travel disengages and engages clutch at the same place in pedal travel through out the life of the clutch disc, usually lower mid travel
Regular pressure plate with new clutch disc will disengage/engage clutch at the very bottom of pedal travel, and the disengage/engage will slowly move up in the pedal travel as the clutch disc wears down, until clutch starts to slip when disc is too thin, pedal disengage/engage is at the very top of pedal travel
With the self adjusting you need to RESET those 3 springs if you put in a new(thicker) clutch disc, or thicker clutch disc can't be fully disengaged, because pressure plate is too close to flywheel
There are videos on how to reset these........................if you think that's the issue
But other that that there is just air in the system when clutch won't disengage fully
Because of the way the Master sits, at an upward angle, air can be trapped at the top, have to pull it out and flip it, then bleed it so all the air goes out of master
Long shot is a worn out hose from master to slave, it expands under pressure, so all the fluid/pressure doesn't go to slave, so slave doesn't extend all the way
Rangers came with 2 different types of pressure plates, regular and self adjusting, or previous owner could have used either
Regular looks like this: https://ic.carid.com/sachs/items/3082654412_3.jpg
Self adjusting looks like this: https://www.partsgeek.com/assets/rep...90-1001987.jpg
Self adjusting has 3 springs around the main "finger springs", these 3 springs move the pressure plate closer to fly wheel as the clutch Disc wears down, so clutch pedal travel disengages and engages clutch at the same place in pedal travel through out the life of the clutch disc, usually lower mid travel
Regular pressure plate with new clutch disc will disengage/engage clutch at the very bottom of pedal travel, and the disengage/engage will slowly move up in the pedal travel as the clutch disc wears down, until clutch starts to slip when disc is too thin, pedal disengage/engage is at the very top of pedal travel
With the self adjusting you need to RESET those 3 springs if you put in a new(thicker) clutch disc, or thicker clutch disc can't be fully disengaged, because pressure plate is too close to flywheel
There are videos on how to reset these........................if you think that's the issue
But other that that there is just air in the system when clutch won't disengage fully
Because of the way the Master sits, at an upward angle, air can be trapped at the top, have to pull it out and flip it, then bleed it so all the air goes out of master
Long shot is a worn out hose from master to slave, it expands under pressure, so all the fluid/pressure doesn't go to slave, so slave doesn't extend all the way
Last edited by RonD; 01-25-2022 at 11:56 AM.
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