Exterior Semi-Tech General discussion of exterior for the Ford Ranger.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

L.E.D's

Old Jun 29, 2008
  #1  
rangerGT's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
From: san antonio,tx
L.E.D's

soo i want to upgrade my turn lights and my brake light to leds...so for those who have them, point me the right way on where to get them and what to look for...any help would be great...
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #2  
04blackedge's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (13)
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 23,426
Likes: 8
From: Durham, NC
I think Jp7 did, you can try PMing him.
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #3  
Danger06Ranger's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (-1)
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 620
Likes: 0
From: Lowell, IN
heres where i got mine:
http://superbrightleds.com/led_prods.htm
great prices and fast shipping.
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #4  
rangerGT's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
From: san antonio,tx
cool thanks! its time for some upgrades tired of my trucking looking like every other ranger on the streets
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #5  
Lone Ranger 93's Avatar
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 0
From: ***
Originally Posted by Danger06Ranger
heres where i got mine:
http://superbrightleds.com/led_prods.htm
great prices and fast shipping.
x2, I've bought a couple LEDs off this site
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #6  
FX403/STX96's Avatar
Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
From: MI
http://www.v-leds.com/Shop/Control/fp/SFV/32481

Here is another site. A bit high on price but great products I have no problems with my purchases. Also change out your 5 pin flasher to a EP27 and you won't hyper flash. That is faster, cheaper and easier than all those resisters.
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #7  
rangerGT's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
From: san antonio,tx
Originally Posted by FX403/STX96
http://www.v-leds.com/Shop/Control/fp/SFV/32481

Also change out your 5 pin flasher to a EP27 and you won't hyper flash. That is faster, cheaper and easier than all those resisters.
how do you do that? im sort of new to this...
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #8  
FX403/STX96's Avatar
Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
From: MI
The flasher is located under the dash on the driver’s side by the steering column. It’s blue in color and the only 5 pin in there ( # 3101 I think). You can by another flasher from any auto parts store. You want one labeled EP27 electronic flasher. Swap it out and you are done.

Then you can change out any bulb you want to LED’s and you won’t hyper flash at all. If you did the turn signal mod, it won’t work with LED’s in the corner and front sockets. Hell if I know why it won’t, but it doesn’t.
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #9  
rangerGT's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
From: san antonio,tx
i never did the turn signal mod, its all stock lighting wise
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2008
  #10  
Spirochets's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 291
Likes: 0
From: Lafayette, La
What is hyper flash why does it happen?
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #11  
jeffb502's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Santa Maria CA
Hyper flash is when your turn signal flashes very quickly, and it happens with thermal flasher units when you have a bulb burnt out. It's supposed to be an indicator so you know you have a turn signal out, but many people have no idea that that's what it means.

An LED lamp looks like a burnt out bulb to a thermal flasher unit since it draws so little current, and will cause a "hyper flash." This is why you either have to replace with an Electronic flasher (I got my EP27 electronic flasher at AutoZone for $12.99) or wire up resistors in the wire going to the LED to simulate the resistance of an incandescent lamp.

FWIW on my truck the flasher was yellow, so the color of the flasher may vary.

About a week ago I bought a pair of 27 LED 3157 amber turn signals at v-leds, then saw a 39 LED amber pair on ebay, then saw a 63 LED pair on ebay. I've installed the 27 LED v-leds lamps. They are dimmer than the stock incandescents but seem to get the job done. The 39 and 63 LED ebay lamps should be in the mail. I'll put up some comparison videos with the 39 and 63 LED ebay lights if you guys would like some. There is also a 60 LED light at v-leds that looks very nice, but the ebay lights are alot cheaper.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #12  
Lone Ranger 93's Avatar
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 0
From: ***
Originally Posted by jeffb502
Hyper flash is when your turn signal flashes very quickly, and it happens with thermal flasher units when you have a bulb burnt out. It's supposed to be an indicator so you know you have a turn signal out, but many people have no idea that that's what it means.

An LED lamp looks like a burnt out bulb to a thermal flasher unit since it draws so little current, and will cause a "hyper flash." This is why you either have to replace with an Electronic flasher (I got my EP27 electronic flasher at AutoZone for $12.99) or wire up resistors in the wire going to the LED to simulate the resistance of an incandescent lamp.

FWIW on my truck the flasher was yellow, so the color of the flasher may vary.

About a week ago I bought a pair of 27 LED 3157 amber turn signals at v-leds, then saw a 39 LED amber pair on ebay, then saw a 63 LED pair on ebay. I've installed the 27 LED v-leds lamps. They are dimmer than the stock incandescents but seem to get the job done. The 39 and 63 LED ebay lamps should be in the mail. I'll put up some comparison videos with the 39 and 63 LED ebay lights if you guys would like some. There is also a 60 LED light at v-leds that looks very nice, but the ebay lights are alot cheaper.
What is the difference between an electro-mechanical flasher and an electronic one? Or are they just the same? Only asking because I found 2 on advance auto's site. I found them here incase your wondering:

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=121&PTSet=A

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=121&PTSet=A
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #13  
Johnbaum13's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,343
Likes: 2
From: Dallas, TX
Electro-mechanical is a thermal flasher and works by heat generated as the current flows. These will produce the "hyper flash". The electronic ones have a circut board and timer to control the flash, and will blink normally no matter what the current draw.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #14  
jeffb502's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Santa Maria CA
Here's a good explanation of the types of flashers...http://www.tricoproducts.com/index.cfm?location_id=34 I'm no expert on the subject; I just know what I had to do for my specific application.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #15  
htjunkie's Avatar
Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 0
From: The Lone Star State
Originally Posted by FX403/STX96
The flasher is located under the dash on the driver’s side by the steering column. It’s blue in color and the only 5 pin in there ( # 3101 I think). You can by another flasher from any auto parts store. You want one labeled EP27 electronic flasher. Swap it out and you are done.

Then you can change out any bulb you want to LED’s and you won’t hyper flash at all. If you did the turn signal mod, it won’t work with LED’s in the corner and front sockets. Hell if I know why it won’t, but it doesn’t.
Well crap, I already bought all the LED's. I did the mod alrady too, now I have to decide if I want to keep the mod...or go to LED's. Tbe regular bulb has a wider spread light, but the LED doesn't. Are the LED's brighter? have a pic of yours?
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #16  
jeffb502's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Santa Maria CA
Which LEDs did you buy ht? There are many different LED lamps out there, some good and some not so good, and brightness/functionality will vary between the different lamps.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #17  
htjunkie's Avatar
Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 0
From: The Lone Star State
3157R's thats what it says on the package. Wanted to get clear for the taillights, but was told that they couldn't order them in clear, just red, or amber. I got these at Auto Zone.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #18  
jeffb502's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Santa Maria CA
Ah yeah I think I saw those the last time I was at Autozone...just a small cluster firing in one direction right? Here's the one I got from ebay...I think this design should work much better since it actually attempts to use the reflector and covers the side better.


Here's one like the one I saw at Autozone...

Personally I wouldn't use a single-direction lamp like the one in the 2nd picture as a taillight or turn signal in my 98 Ranger, since the taillight design depends on the lamp to shoot out light to the side as well as the rear. With a single direction lamp there is going to be little or no light shining to the side, greatly decreasing rear side visibility.

Also, most sites that sell the LEDs recommend purchasing the same color as the lense it is going to be behind due to the nature of LEDs vs. incandescents.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #19  
htjunkie's Avatar
Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 0
From: The Lone Star State
I'm going to take my lights back. Any idea what the others cost?
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #20  
GrafixGuy's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,703
Likes: 2
From: Montgomery, AL
I thnk there is a LED website that sells something similar to spider-lites but a lot cheaper... $54 for pair vs. $100 for 2...

 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #21  
htjunkie's Avatar
Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 0
From: The Lone Star State
Don't think these will make much ise of the reflector..
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #22  
jeffb502's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Santa Maria CA
The one I linked to is on ebay for about $20/pair before shipping. Just search for 63 led 3157 and they should come up. They're pretty cheap compared to the 60 LED lamps at v-leds ($49.99/pair plus shipping) but I just bought one pair of the ebay lights for now to see how they work out.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #23  
htjunkie's Avatar
Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 0
From: The Lone Star State
Jeff,what about the "spider" ones?
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #24  
jeffb502's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Santa Maria CA
No idea...I've never tried them but I agree with you in that it looks like they just fire towards the rear. They would obviously cover the rear facing portion of the lense much better than the small unidirectional cluster style but I'm not seeing anything for side visibility.

FWIW many vehicles use a 2 lamp system, one primarily for rear visibility and one for side visibility...the spider might work well with that type of system. With the rangers we seem to be stuck with one lamp for both jobs, so we need active side and rear facing illumination. I also like the idea of alot of side firing LEDs since they make use of the stock reflector and should fill out the lense better.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2008
  #25  
htjunkie's Avatar
Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 0
From: The Lone Star State
i'm thinkin I might go woth the 63 light ones..
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:38 AM.