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I dont have the experience?

572cid BBC with M4 system made 1180 ft/lb. Been running for over 2 years. (this was dyno tuned)
454cid BBC with M3 system made close to 750ft/lb. Over 3 years.
LT1 Impala SS with P1SC system over 100k miles.
I can keep going if you would like.

That 400hp V6 Mustang has over 25k miles on it.
Again, I never said a tune was a bad thing.

I will give you credit, that looks like a clean install in the pic above.
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I dont have the experience?

572cid BBC with M4 system made 1180 ft/lb. Been running for over 2 years. (this was dyno tuned)
454cid BBC with M3 system made close to 750ft/lb. Over 3 years.
LT1 Impala SS with P1SC system over 100k miles.
I can keep going if you would like.

That 400hp V6 Mustang has over 25k miles on it.
Again, I never said a tune was a bad thing.

I will give you credit, that looks like a clean install in the pic above.
Thanx for the compliment, but you dont understand computer controlled systems.... They HAVE TO BE TUNED!!!!!! I said EEC V systems, that is the OBDII system installed on 96&up Ford vehicles... You are listing carbed engines(except for the impala) that require jets. A tune is REQUIRED on a computer controlled system....
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No. All three of those are all EFI. Have done carb systems, and they are a pain to dial in, that blow through box sucks.
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EEC tuning

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Ignore if you like, this is going to basic.

Tuning an OBD-II vehicle involves reprogramming the decision tables in the PCM; at least this is what I understand.

Must the reprogramming be done only on the OEM PCM, or can a replacement PCM be used?

I am looking at buying a used PCM [from a 2002] to send to whipple instead of the PCM in my 2004; that way I can avoid the week down time.

I am told that that will not work because the 2002 PCM PATS will not recognize my ignition key. [yes, or no; if you know?]

Surely Ford has a PATS reprogramming/learning process somewhere.

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Dont try to start and argument about tuning. I am a Procharger and Explorer Express installer. I spend hours every week on the dyno, tuning cars with as little as cold air intakes and axle back exhaust systems. ANY modifications to ANY EEC V computer controlled vehicle requires tuning. Procharger's FMU is a waste of time, and a good way to ruin a motor. Stage 2 kit? 400hp? Try it... I want to see it.... When you break pistons, call me and I will have some new ones shipped to you. Use the FMU on the 4.0s. I wanna see how you hook it up.... The regulator is in the FUEL TANK. Once you have completed the 400hp 4.0 without a tune, then post things like this, but until then, keep your nonsense posts to yourself!!!
If I told ya I saw 400HP on a SOHC 4.0 without touching the Ecc4 or ecc5 unit.. would you call me a liar? :) ( Hint, look in my profile at my mods ) .
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To Nick:

Ignore if you like, this is going to basic.

Tuning an OBD-II vehicle involves reprogramming the decision tables in the PCM; at least this is what I understand.

Must the reprogramming be done only on the OEM PCM, or can a replacement PCM be used?

I am looking at buying a used PCM [from a 2002] to send to whipple instead of the PCM in my 2004; that way I can avoid the week down time.

I am told that that will not work because the 2002 PCM PATS will not recognize my ignition key. [yes, or no; if you know?]

Surely Ford has a PATS reprogramming/learning process somewhere.

Roy
You can have your vehicle dyno-tuned with your stock computer. I would recommend this with a supercharger application because every vehicle responds differently. The companies that send you "mail order" tunes have files that are close, but they leave a "gray" area, if you will, in the tune for different climates and different responses from vehicles. Basically what you are getting is a base tune written to perfom decently enough without hurting the engine, such as too lean or too rich, knock, etc..... Your PATS system can be reprogrammed through a Ford dealership, and if you switch ecm's, they will also have to program your VIN number into the new ecm for inspection purposes.
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If I told ya I saw 400HP on a SOHC 4.0 without touching the Ecc4 or ecc5 unit.. would you call me a liar? :) ( Hint, look in my profile at my mods ) .
HAHA, funny guy^^^ Once again though, this wasnt on a stock 4.0 and this wasnt using a factory maf or fuel injectors...... But yea, I got ur point.


Procharger sends you the basics in a kit. You get all the s/c mounting systems, intercooler(if you want a 3 core you have to wait 4-6weeks and spend 400 bucks more) and pipes, FMU(fuel management unit) which does nothing more that shut the return down under boost, and an in-line fuel pump. DONT get me wrong, these are awesome kits, make lots of power, and are very efficient, but even the plug-and-play kits are still tuner kits........

Oh yea, I was wanting to find out if you knew someone who is really close to my family... Jimmy Clarke(Lizard) ring a bell? It may not, but I just have an odd feeling you may know him. I will get some more info on him, he was a green beret...

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Im admiring the supercharger they make for my car. Thats awesome!
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Im admiring the supercharger they make for my car. Thats awesome!
You should buy one... I know just the guy who can sell you one, and if you install it yourself, I, um, I mean he will help you step by step if needed...
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HAHA, funny guy^^^ Once again though, this wasnt on a stock 4.0 and this wasnt using a factory maf or fuel injectors...... But yea, I got ur point. ...
Wasnt a factory ECC unit either. Never touched it tho :) . Was my old Tec3.

It pulled 421 and went Boom when winding down LOL! Sounded awesome before the place shook and valve cover parts went all over the place.. schrapnel everywhere.. Was just a stock SOHC and we hit it with 20psi of boost and like a 100 shot ( maybe more. the .092 jet was in the wett side of the setup, dont remember what the fuel side was.. was huge tho ) . The M90 shot about 4 feet over the top of the engine and landed like.. dunno, it hit the wall and went thru the plywood portion and bounced back.. I remember the lights in the room flickering for some reason..

I'm betting we could get 500hp out of a stock SOHC.. just once! Lotsa juice :)

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Procharger sends you the basics in a kit. You get all the s/c mounting systems, intercooler(if you want a 3 core you have to wait 4-6weeks and spend 400 bucks more) and pipes, FMU(fuel management unit) which does nothing more that shut the return down under boost, and an in-line fuel pump. DONT get me wrong, these are awesome kits, make lots of power, and are very efficient, but even the plug-and-play kits are still tuner kits..
I just don't like the heat of a roots system.

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Oh yea, I was wanting to find out if you knew someone who is really close to my family... Jimmy Clarke(Lizard) ring a bell? It may not, but I just have an odd feeling you may know him. I will get some more info on him, he was a green beret...
Hes Army, I'm a jarhead I doubt I would know him endless hes worked in D.C. or Quantico with inner-services.

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nick where is the vid at??.. i musta missed it, id like to see that
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thanks zack :) tight vids.. i want more!..longeeeeer
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way too much $$
Just buy a used S trim head unit off some site Ebay maybe then buy all the plumbing and etc. from vortec and its not so expensive anymore. Ooops the secret of buying SC and keeping everything cheaper is out. It doesn't have to be brand new to make more HP TRQ.
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Just buy a used S trim head unit off some site Ebay maybe then buy all the plumbing and etc. from vortec and its not so expensive anymore. Ooops the secret of buying SC and keeping everything cheaper is out. It doesn't have to be brand new to make more HP TRQ.

You wont see me pissing away my dough on a pos vortec... I hate them... Never want to see another one!!!!!
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You wont see me pissing away my dough on a pos vortec... I hate them... Never want to see another one!!!!!
Nobody will EVER see a Vortec head unit on ANY of my vehicals.
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Forgot the h if that is what every one is refering to sorry I'm a little slow. It happens from time to time.
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Forgot the h if that is what every one is refering to sorry I'm a little slow. It happens from time to time.
h? I must be slow too... I have no idea what you are talkin about...
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Vortech not Vortec Vortec=Cheby
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Vortech not Vortec Vortec=Cheby

Oh, well I understood you from the get-go... Still hate them!!!
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