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Clutch pedal help

First thanks you guys have been very helpful it’s my fist ranger it’s a 02, so my clutch pedal at times is at normal height and at times it sinks to the floor. I think there may be air in the system but I’m not sure as there is fluid in the reservoir any thoughts, it is harder to put in first when it’s to the floor and then no prob a day later when it’s at Normal hight and the pedal feels like there is resistance when normal and lil to none when to the floor.
 
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Just for reference
The Ranger clutch reservoir has an Air Bladder inside that needs to be removed to see the fluid level underneath it, looks like this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/80sP9.jpg
I have seen people put fluid in the air bladder thinking its part or reservoirs "tank"

The air bladder can be left out, its there to reduce the fluids contact with air over the long term, same is seen on brake master, rubber "cup" attached to cap

Yes, could be some air in the system, but its odd that symptom would come and go, air inside should show issue full time
May be time to replace clutch master

 
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Might have to

Originally Posted by RonD
Just for reference
The Ranger clutch reservoir has an Air Bladder inside that needs to be removed to see the fluid level underneath it, looks like this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/80sP9.jpg
I have seen people put fluid in the air bladder thinking its part or reservoirs "tank"

The air bladder can be left out, its there to reduce the fluids contact with air over the long term, same is seen on brake master, rubber "cup" attached to cap

Yes, could be some air in the system, but its odd that symptom would come and go, air inside should show issue full time
May be time to replace clutch master
yes I did see the bladder and yes may have to change the system ok thanks
 
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If you're going to bleed the clutch anyway to see if there's air in the lines, I would just replace the clutch slave cylinder while you're down there. They are usually cheap and under $15 and you may as well replace it. Your problem sounds like a bad slave cylinder. If you replace the slave cylinder, bleed the clutch, and the problem still exists, air must be getting in the lines from somewhere. I don't know if Ford Rangers have it, but older Nissan pickups have a "clutch damper". It's basically an unnecessary part that has a rubber balloon type of thing inside that absorbs some of the hydraulic fluid force when you slam down on the clutch pedal hard to prevent jolting. After many years the rubber wears out inside of them and they leak air/clutch fluid. If a replacement part can't be found, most people do a "clutch damper delete" and just connect the 2 hydraulic lines together with a brass adapter instead of having the clutch damper in between the two lines.
 
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Originally Posted by R083RT
If you're going to bleed the clutch anyway to see if there's air in the lines, I would just replace the clutch slave cylinder while you're down there. .
You do realize the transmission has to come out to replace the slave cylinder on a Ranger ?
 
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Originally Posted by 2011Supercab
You do realize the transmission has to come out to replace the slave cylinder on a Ranger ?
I had no idea but thank you for letting me know not to buy a manual ranger!

Disregard my post! Lol
 
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No way really!

Originally Posted by 2011Supercab
You do realize the transmission has to come out to replace the slave cylinder on a Ranger ?
demmm it all that just to un plug the hose there got to be a way around that ?
 
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????

The master's hose disconnects from the slave, called a quick disconnect fitting
Also has a valve inside that seals the hose when its removed so fluid can't run out from reservoir/master

Ford started using internal clutch slaves back in the 1980's, way more reliable than external slaves, but yes harder to swap out if slave should leak
 
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Ahhhh ok

Originally Posted by RonD
????

The master's hose disconnects from the slave, called a quick disconnect fitting
Also has a valve inside that seals the hose when its removed so fluid can't run out from reservoir/master

Ford started using internal clutch slaves back in the 1980's, way more reliable than external slaves, but yes harder to swap out if slave should leak
I’ll look under the truck I recently swapped out the rear end and I don’t de any fluids in the floor as well as the reservoir is full of fluid I don’t think may slave is leaking how ever I’ll 2x check I really think and hopes it’s just air in the line I hear that’s a common issue on these rangers
 
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Looked in the transmission

Originally Posted by Bajarangerdanger
I’ll look under the truck I recently swapped out the rear end and I don’t de any fluids in the floor as well as the reservoir is full of fluid I don’t think may slave is leaking how ever I’ll 2x check I really think and hopes it’s just air in the line I hear that’s a common issue on these rangers
i looked in side the transmission there seems to be no oil leak inside any were around the slave cylinder or in side the transmission were the clutch is I hope it’s just the master cylinder how can I troubleshoot this
 

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Update

Originally Posted by RonD
Just for reference
The Ranger clutch reservoir has an Air Bladder inside that needs to be removed to see the fluid level underneath it, looks like this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/80sP9.jpg
I have seen people put fluid in the air bladder thinking its part or reservoirs "tank"

The air bladder can be left out, its there to reduce the fluids contact with air over the long term, same is seen on brake master, rubber "cup" attached to cap

Yes, could be some air in the system, but its odd that symptom would come and go, air inside should show issue full time
May be time to replace clutch master
I’ve taken out the dust cover in the transmission and I don’t see any oil at all in there the fluid is full but the pedal is to the floor and will not let me go in gear while the truck is on, I still think and hope it’s just air in the system or at worst hope it’s the master cylinder that needs replacement and not the slave any tips on troubleshooting pls
 
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Look in the bell housing

Originally Posted by Bajarangerdanger
I’ll look under the truck I recently swapped out the rear end and I don’t de any fluids in the floor as well as the reservoir is full of fluid I don’t think may slave is leaking how ever I’ll 2x check I really think and hopes it’s just air in the line I hear that’s a common issue on these rangers
I’ve taken out the dust cover in the transmission and I don’t see any oil at all in there the fluid is full but the pedal is to the floor and will not let me go in gear while the truck is on, I still think and hope it’s just air in the system or at worst hope it’s the master cylinder that needs replacement and not the slave any tips on troubleshooting pls
 
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Looked in the bell cover

Originally Posted by 2011Supercab
You do realize the transmission has to come out to replace the slave cylinder on a Ranger ?
I’ve taken out the dust cover in the transmission and I don’t see any oil at all in there the fluid is full but the pedal is to the floor and will not let me go in gear while the truck is on, I still think and hope it’s just air in the system or at worst hope it’s the master cylinder that needs replacement and not the slave any tips on troubleshooting pls
 
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