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water as fuel

yep water fuel... well sorta, H2O is made up of hydrogen and oxygen.. when those products separate using a hydrogen generator they create two highly flamably gases.. hydrogen burns around 3000 degrees.. hotter than our current fuel used in our cars.. it also burns faster.. which would equal better performance for less.. after your engine burns the gases as fuel the only byproduct is water.. so fill your car up with water and away you go.. you only have to change a few things to make it work, i believe the injectors need to be changed and things like the exhaust pipes which will rust.. the engine wont rust.. the only big problem with this is your fuel can freeze...

now me and my brother have thought of a new way to make a hydrogen generator, which would be capable of running in a car.. but why stop there? why not hook up a generator to your house n not pay for electricity just a small water bill... if you have a propane generator there is nothing you have to do except turn off your propane and hook up a gen
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a hydrogen generator.. but dont stop yet.. hydrogen is fuel.. which can be run in a propane or natural gas heater.. so you could run your intire house and vehicles off water... but if you have a well instead of city water you would NOT have to pay for any expensive utility bills ever again... the only problem is the hydrogen generators are expensive for one that can produce enough hydrogen to do everything.. me and my brother will be able to make one cheap. we figured ev erything out and we are in the process of building a prototype now.. i cant wait for no fuel bill!!
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neat-o. so your truck runs on water then?
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lol... i work with the hydrogen vehicles at roush all the time lol. have fun with that..
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ri ght now my truck doesnt run off water.. but thats because its reached freezing where i live and we havnt figured out a way to make it not freeze yet...
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our new way to produce hydrogen is not patented yet so unfortunately im not going to tell you how it works... but after we start producing them im sure you can buy one from us.. lol
we are also working on many other ideas but thats another topic.. and they are also not patented yet so you might not know those for awhile longer...
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Hey didn't the Hindenburg have Hydrogen in it?

that worked out well didn't it?
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Dude, a hydrogen generator ='s electrolysis. So your hydrogen generator basically consumes more energy to pull hydrogen out of water. Great thinking, welcome to high school science class.

and Karpe,

your avatar chick is hot

And nice squinty eyes.
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yes a hydrogen generator is electrolysis.. but depending on how you make you electrolysis plates is how much hydrogen/oxygen you can make.. our new idea is the alignment of the plates to maximize the electrolysis process with less power, and ran through a propane generator it will create more electricity than it takes to run itself.. which is almost like making a perpetual motion machine...
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lol and yes the hindenburg did have hydrogen in it.. since hydrogen is 14 times lighter than air it worked well... but i am not storing that much hydrogen... so i dont care how well that worked... it is not related to my ideas, but it did burn very good didnt it? thats what i want..
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lol there is a reason all our hydrogen vehicles are extremely safe and strong tanks. basically are bullet proof....
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actually if you installed a hydrogen generator in your vehicle there is no need for high pressure tanks, it would make it as you use it.. there will be 1 reserve tank so when you floor it, it will have extra fuel to burn.. but at the same time it could up the electricity and produce more hydrogen... but right now it prolly would be easier to use the tanks since it wont freeze then..
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actually is hydrogen like co2 or n2o? like doest it stay cold? if so your engine would run hella good.. cold fuel! lol no need for high tech cooling systems...
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Dude, I'm not bored enough to shut down everything you believe. So let me just say this, you don't know what you're talking about, you don't understand electricity, propane, or hydrogen, and to top it off, I'm really starting to think you are high.


By the way, at least hydrogen can be stored in a non pressurized form.
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actually if you installed a hydrogen generator in your vehicle there is no need for high pressure tanks, it would make it as you use it.. there will be 1 reserve tank so when you floor it, it will have extra fuel to burn.. but at the same time it could up the electricity and produce more hydrogen... but right now it prolly would be easier to use the tanks since it wont freeze then..

Generating hydrogen is slow and takes large amounts of energy.
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actually is hydrogen like co2 or n2o? like doest it stay cold? if so your engine would run hella good.. cold fuel! lol no need for high tech cooling systems...
Your the ones making this invention and your asking us this question???

haha kinda ironic to me hahahah


but i honostly don't have a friggen clue pal. hope it works though.
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It's not that No2 or Co2 stay cold, it's that compressed gases generate heat as they compress and likewise cool off the surrounding air as they expand. as an example pick up a room temperature Co2 canister for a paintball or BB gun and pop the top. the Co2 escapes so rappidly ( and expands) that the casing temp lowers so much that it freezes the moisture around it.

then we get frost on the case YAY

you just learned the definition of Adiabatic heating.
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lol i know what im doing but havnt actually done it so idk what hydrogen is like exactly.. im not high sorry.. but i do know what im talking about... after me and my brother make the prototype ill prove it to you... its pretty simple, oh and just to tell you it doesnt take that much power to start making hydrogen.. its just how much you make to the power used.. gotta find the efficient point.. and i didnt say anything about propane.. except you can substitute it for hydrogen, exactly like you can do with fuel in a car
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yea i know how co2 works i was just asking if hydrogen does the same and cools down
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yes a hydrogen generator is electrolysis.. but depending on how you make you electrolysis plates is how much hydrogen/oxygen you can make.. our new idea is the alignment of the plates to maximize the electrolysis process with less power, and ran through a propane generator it will create more electricity than it takes to run itself.. which is almost like making a perpetual motion machine...
You seriously need to take a general chemistry class...and then you need to come back and read your posts and ask us to forgive you
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You seriously need to take a general chemistry class...and then you need to come back and read your posts and ask us to forgive you
It's awesome cause like seriously, all you do is move stuff around and BAM! perpetual energy and I can drive home to Alaska for freeeeeeee!
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lol maybe i didnt word it right.. you will see after we make it, ill come back n show you then.. you dont understand what im trying to say or something
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It's awesome cause like seriously, all you do is move stuff around and BAM! perpetual energy and I can drive home to Alaska for freeeeeeee!
I know! Why didn't all those people that went to college think of this?
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lol maybe i didnt word it right.. you will see after we make it, ill come back n show you then.. you dont understand what im trying to say or something
Yes, please come show us when you are done rewriting physics
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on a different note... karpe is that the real you? the misses? Shes cute..
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