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No what is the difference between that and the chain drive. other then I know over time the chain will stretch. is there a performance advantage to it.
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No performance advantage gear drives take more power to turn, and wine like a supercharger,and are not for an efi motor. They are made for hi lift cams and hi presure valve springs.
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Ok. But why are they no good for efi... mine is a EFI.
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the gear drives are made for the 5.0l efi engines

they are also made for stock and moderate lift camshafts
click on the link and you wil see the mis-nomer clause

( not to be used above 7,000 rpm`s on computer controlled engines )

the carb and efi blocks are the same
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If your efi setup has a knock sensor a gear drive will make the ecm retard the timing because of the harmonics of the gear drive.
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Are those lifters the one from your block? I like the low end torque and how flat the torque curve is. Ask me how i know.
war referring to trick flows heads forgot to add brand. DUH
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As asked before what is the car used for?
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The car I have no idea what it was used for....But this engine is going to be calling the engine bay in my ranger home hopefully by the start of next summer.
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the gear drives are made for the 5.0l efi engines

they are also made for stock and moderate lift camshafts
click on the link and you wil see the mis-nomer clause

( not to be used above 7,000 rpm`s on computer controlled engines )

the carb and efi blocks are the same
What link.
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The car I have no idea what it was used for....But this engine is going to be calling the engine bay in my ranger home hopefully by the start of next summer.
will it be a daily drive,street-strip, or track only?
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For about a year it will be a daily. Then after that she will be trail only. It is going to be along the lines of a rock/trail rig.
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Whats the max rpm do you expect turn? The trick flow and edelbrock kits are more for a street/strip setup not a slow crawler.
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you are thinking of the edelbrock performer system

he needs the torquer system

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you are thinking of the edelbrock performer system

he needs the torquer system

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The torquer want make 350 hp but it will have alot of torque down low.
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But dont you need the Hp to make the high torque?
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hp is different from torque

you need torque to off road

high hp is for street / strip
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Ok so this is going to sound really stupid.... How do i create more torque. I assumed as one goes up so would the other.
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you need a matched intake to the camshaft

edelbrock has the kit

stick to the factory intake you need a .282 intake/exhaust duration for maximum torque idle to 5500 rpm`

Edelbrock.com - Ford Small Block Camshafts and Matching Components

scroll down to the 5.0l v8 part and click on the small number

it lists the essentials
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Ok But I want to stay with a EFI.
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I checked that out and the kit is only good for 87-95. My block is a 86. Can I still use it or am i s.o.l
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Cancel my last post i read a little close and i was reading the 5.8 not the 5.0.
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hp is different from torque
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Ok so this is going to sound really stupid.... How do i create more torque. I assumed as one goes up so would the other.
Torque gets you started, that is why it is low end and HP keeps you going that is why it is higher up on the rpm range. IMHO… if you want to feel it in the seat of the pants and not build a drag machine, go for more torque.
How to increase Torque in a 5.0L… ? First off you are dealing with a small block, short stroke engine where everything is against you in the torque department.
To get some more out of it try buying a cam with a short duration and a lot of lift, ( I am runner a 268 Duration Cam with a 510 intake lift and a 513 Exhaust lift on a 112 degree separation ), more lift will mean more low end torque and a little more on the top end if you were to crank it up some.
Another way would be to replace your rocker arms with a higher ratio version and put in a lower lift Camshaft as suggested above.
OEM Rocker Arm Ratio for Ford is 1.6 to 1, buy some new Roller Rocker Arms with a 1.7 Ratio, make sure the pistons have enough clearance for either method of higher lift; cam or rocker arms and that the Push Rods are the correct length for the application.

Another more drastic method, if you really want to add a little more torque and you have the engine stripped completely and need to replace parts you might try replacing the Connecting Rods with longer versions, approx-max at 0.495 longer rod will make a big difference and that will require new pistons also. This is not a stroker kit, the displacement of the engine will remain the same just the characteristics will change some.

There are stroker kits, 317, 331, 347 cubic inches, they increase torque too but added expense.

Some replacement aftermarket heads will add to the increased power both torque and HP.
The Kits mentioned are working packages, designed to add to each other, so no matter what kit you buy, talk to the Manufacturers about what you need and how it will work for you; do not depend on talk on the web and what he said vs I said

Your move decide what you need, how much you want to spend and get’r done !

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Perfect thats what I wanted to know. Thanks man.
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