Hard to fill gas tank
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Hard to fill gas tank
Just happened this morning. When I try filling the pump shuts off in about 10 seconds like the tank is full. I tried pulling the pump nozzle out about half way and it didnt change anything, still shut off in about 10 seconds. The check engine light has not come on. Truck runs fine. Since i've had the truck my purge valve has made a hissing noise that would come and go every day. When it does making the hissing noise, if I pop off the gas cap it will go away but eventually come back after the cap is put back on. Would these two problems be caused by the same thing? I have heard the hissing noise is normal. I hope it is just a clogged vent tube that I can clear out easily. Thanks in advance for any info.
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Problem solved!! Well at least so far. I took the vent hose off the filler neck and put a small hose inside of of it and blew through it and it cleared. Did the same on the metal hose that is part of the filler neck. Drove with the gas cap off until the gas cap light went on (read this on another forum to do) then put cap back on, light went off after a while, drove another 10 miles back to the same gas station I originally had the problem with from the beginning, filled up at the same pump and now all is well!! Thought it was going to end up having to replace the vapor canister but so far so good. Hopefully no more issues but if so the next step would be the canister.
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Ferdy (10-17-2021)
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old post and going out on a limb. But My 04 keeps kicking the pump off. Truck was parked for almost 3 years so I thinking wasp or spiders clogged something. Where is the vent? on the tank or charcoal canister?
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interesting location. My 94 has the charcoal canister under the hood near the battery.
from what I learned about the evap system. Back in the day they just used to put a vent on top of the gas tank. To prevent pressure building up. The tank wants to expand and contract with changes in atmospheric pressure. The vent keeps it from sucking in or expanding out and jacking up your fuel pressure on a hot day. But gasoline is a solvent, constantly trying to evaporate. So that vent would leak out quite a lot of fuel vapors. Car would stink of gas and it contributed to smog. So they created a somewhat elaborate solution. To vent the tank to atmosphere but also capture the fuel vapors. Charcoal canister somehow does that. Catches vapors and condenses them so a purge solenoid can send them into the engine to be burned and not leak out into the air.
from what I learned about the evap system. Back in the day they just used to put a vent on top of the gas tank. To prevent pressure building up. The tank wants to expand and contract with changes in atmospheric pressure. The vent keeps it from sucking in or expanding out and jacking up your fuel pressure on a hot day. But gasoline is a solvent, constantly trying to evaporate. So that vent would leak out quite a lot of fuel vapors. Car would stink of gas and it contributed to smog. So they created a somewhat elaborate solution. To vent the tank to atmosphere but also capture the fuel vapors. Charcoal canister somehow does that. Catches vapors and condenses them so a purge solenoid can send them into the engine to be burned and not leak out into the air.
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interesting location. My 94 has the charcoal canister under the hood near the battery.
from what I learned about the evap system. Back in the day they just used to put a vent on top of the gas tank. To prevent pressure building up. The tank wants to expand and contract with changes in atmospheric pressure. The vent keeps it from sucking in or expanding out and jacking up your fuel pressure on a hot day. But gasoline is a solvent, constantly trying to evaporate. So that vent would leak out quite a lot of fuel vapors. Car would stink of gas and it contributed to smog. So they created a somewhat elaborate solution. To vent the tank to atmosphere but also capture the fuel vapors. Charcoal canister somehow does that. Catches vapors and condenses them so a purge solenoid can send them into the engine to be burned and not leak out into the air.
from what I learned about the evap system. Back in the day they just used to put a vent on top of the gas tank. To prevent pressure building up. The tank wants to expand and contract with changes in atmospheric pressure. The vent keeps it from sucking in or expanding out and jacking up your fuel pressure on a hot day. But gasoline is a solvent, constantly trying to evaporate. So that vent would leak out quite a lot of fuel vapors. Car would stink of gas and it contributed to smog. So they created a somewhat elaborate solution. To vent the tank to atmosphere but also capture the fuel vapors. Charcoal canister somehow does that. Catches vapors and condenses them so a purge solenoid can send them into the engine to be burned and not leak out into the air.
yeah, My 04 charcoal canister is above the spare tire
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