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Old Mar 16, 2009
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Originally Posted by CBFranger
You're right, your test shows nothing at all.
Ok, let me try to put this in words that maybe you can understand!

There are two indisputable FACTS from these comparisons:

1) The OEM paper filters have 5.5X the filter media area of the K&N filter media


2) The paper filter media filters much better than the K&N filter media


And this comparison is consistant with:

1) The results of this independent air filter test:

http://duramax-diesel.com/spicer/index.htm


2) Rich's post regarding K&N intakes:

You will *likely* increase the amount of grit entering the intake.


3) The reports of contaminated MAF sensors, high Si in UOA, and "dusted" turbos when running K&N air filters


4) K&N's recommendation to use the following in "very dusty conditions"

http://www.knfilters.com/search/wrap.aspx
 
Old Mar 16, 2009
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Why is it that all the info you post about problems with a K&N is from use in turbo diesels? Where is the info from use in N/A gas motors?
 
Old Mar 16, 2009
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Originally Posted by Johnbaum13
Why is it that all the info you post about problems with a K&N is from use in turbo diesels? Where is the info from use in N/A gas motors?
Wrong John, there are plenty of MAF sensor contamination, and high Si in UOA reports from gasoline engines!!!
 
Old Mar 16, 2009
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Originally Posted by Takeda
Wrong John, there are plenty of MAF sensor contamination, and high Si in UOA reports from gasoline engines!!!
Here is the difference between discussing a topic and arguing with a grumpy old man. The proper response would have been to post a couple of links to the info requested, i.e. N/A gas motor problems, since what I saw was links to diesel web sites. Instead, you chose to tell me I was wrong for asking for evidence.

I'm done.
 
Old Mar 16, 2009
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Originally Posted by Johnbaum13
Here is the difference between discussing a topic and arguing with a grumpy old man. The proper response would have been to post a couple of links to the info requested, i.e. N/A gas motor problems, since what I saw was links to diesel web sites. Instead, you chose to tell me I was wrong for asking for evidence.

I'm done.

And another clue is a posting history that contains (guessing) 10,000 "!!!" and screaming in CAPS. And as for "MAF sensor contamination, and high Si in UOA reports from gasoline engines!!!" - hardly a day goes by that I don't have to clean a contaminated/dirty MAF sensor at the shop...and nearly every single one will have a paper filter installed, not a K&N filter.

Also done.
 
Old Mar 16, 2009
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Well since my posts pretty much get ignored by Bob I am also done. Hurts to be proven wrong huh Bob?

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Old Mar 16, 2009
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Originally Posted by Johnbaum13
Here is the difference between discussing a topic and arguing with a grumpy old man. The proper response would have been to post a couple of links to the info requested, i.e. N/A gas motor problems, since what I saw was links to diesel web sites. Instead, you chose to tell me I was wrong for asking for evidence.

I'm done.

Great, good riddence!!

All you did was whine, nothing constructive at all!!

Why don't you show evidence that all the damage from K&N's is always on
turbo diesels, and no N/A gasoline engines?
 
Old Mar 16, 2009
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Alrighty. 8 pages now. Seeing that absolutely nothing has been proven in any of these so-called "tests" and that this is destined to be nothing more than waste of server space, I think it is time to put this one to rest.
 
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