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keypad compatability question

hi i have an 04 4.0 supercab w/out keyless entry

im ready to add it al in now. i have the ford oem keypad that goes by the doorhandle, i got from a friend and i bougth a couple actuators for the 2 doors. im wondering what alarm to get now. do you think the keypad would be compatible with an aftermarket alarm or should i buy the ford oem alarm?? i really wanna hook up remote start so if all you pro's out there kno lemme kno, thanks!
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Which keypad do you have? I do the keypad mod on trucks with factory security. This is a wired keypad.

But Ford has a wireless one as well. It will ONLY work with a system that could use stock Ford keyless entry fobs. Most aftermarket systems have their own fobs with different coding and the Ford unit won't work.

Wired keyless entry will work with aftermarket units. I've done it for a sailor named Aron Jemision (who doesn't post on here, I don't think, he's a GenEdge guy) who had an older Gen II or Gen III ranger with an aftermarket system.

I'm not doing any units right now. In fact, I've somehow managed to lose ALL my paperwork on the mod (see my post on adult ADD, lol). Besides which, I need to make a JY run and harvest some units to modify. Note that you have to cut your door to put mine in.

There's info on it on my Cardomain site, which you can get to from the link in my signature.

Remote start with a contemporary Ranger with PATS generally involves "embedding" a PATS key in the dash. I don't like this method because it basically disables PATS. More sophisticated systems "learn" your PATS code and bypass the transponder system only on remote start, meaning a regular key won't start your truck and you still need a PATS key.
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Remote start with a contemporary Ranger with PATS generally involves "embedding" a PATS key in the dash. I don't like this method because it basically disables PATS. More sophisticated systems "learn" your PATS code and bypass the transponder system only on remote start, meaning a regular key won't start your truck and you still need a PATS key.
John, On my old truck you might remember that I had a remote starter. I had the system that uses a key buried in the dash. But to clarify, the PATS was not permantely disabled because of the key. I could not take an un-programmed key and start my truck. The only time the keys PATS signal is running to the ignition from the remote starter via the key in the dash is when you are trying to remote start the truck. If at any other time that I was not using my remote starter to start my truck, the stock PATS function was still in complete working order.
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Okay, Mike, thanks. You probably told me that before and somewhere I got it lost. I know there have been systems that just defeat PATS completely -- but yours is better designed than that and that's good to know.
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the keypad i haev requires no drilling. umm so what wouldu guys recommend as far as alarm w/ remote start to work with the keypad
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The keypad you probably have is the aftermarket one that Ford sells. Its is a wireless device and REQUIRES that you already have the existing Ford Keyless entry system. That keypad will not work with an aftermarket kit. There is nothing you can do to make it work with an aftermarket system either. The only way it will work is if you were to find and install a Ford keyless entry system.
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Exactly, I said that earlier, but I don't think he caught it in all my "verbiage".
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lol nope i didn't. alrighties so i gotta buy the oem. okee and i just gotta add another module and bypass or something for the remote start to work right?
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John, I think I have that keypad clip you asked me to get about 2 months ago. It should be around here somewhere. There's only one, right??
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lol nope i didn't. alrighties so i gotta buy the oem. okee and i just gotta add another module and bypass or something for the remote start to work right?
Yes. Wherever you get the alarm you need to get a module to do the PATS bypass. I've never bought one so I'm not sure what exactly you need in terms of a specific part.
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hi i have an 04 4.0 supercab w/out keyless entry

im ready to add it al in now. i have the ford oem keypad that goes by the doorhandle, i got from a friend and i bougth a couple actuators for the 2 doors. im wondering what alarm to get now. do you think the keypad would be compatible with an aftermarket alarm or should i buy the ford oem alarm?? i really wanna hook up remote start so if all you pro's out there kno lemme kno, thanks!
You are talking about installing a remote start on a vehicle with a manual transmission. Because of the obvious liability involved, most, if not all, DIY remote start kits are for automatic transmission only. There are some alarm / remote start installers who will do the installation on a manual but it usually involves elaborate safeguards to ensure that the remote start cannot operate if the transmission is left in gear.
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ok im retarded, ive been looking around for a way to get the ford oem alarm cheaper. Ive found a few different kits on ebay n im not sure if any of these will work. u can find a few typing in "ford oem alarm" but basically like i said i want that keypad to work with it, and i want to add remote start on my 5spd. Can anyof you suggest anything or any of em on ebay that would work for a retard like myself..


oh by the way i read that the new mustangs come with remote start on the auto's. can this system work on the rangers? and which one is it???
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It will NOT work with your keyless entry keypad I don't believe. They imply your "stock" remotes won't work with the alarm. In the text, he says it works with the factory keyless entry, although your original remotes won't work with the alarm part you are adding.

What that means basically is that you get two new remotes for the alarm, which you now must use, and your factory remotes will ONLY energize the keyless entry system, but not disable the alarm when you want to get in.

Since you don't have factory keyless TO BEGIN WITH -- that Ford keypad will be totally useless.
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ugh so your all right, the wireless keypad only works with ford vehicles that came with the factory alarm system from detroit, not with the ford after-factory or "aftermarket" alarm. anyone wanna buy it?? lol never used its basicaly the ones you see on ebay brand new, codes wirelessly no drilling to your factory system
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I know an old thread but.....
I have the factory keyless entry on my 04 ranger.
I just picked up the Ford "aftermarket" keypad(the one that sticks on and is wireless)

How do I do about syncing it to my truck?

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