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Old Jan 7, 2009
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awesome work beard!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009
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If I could ever get motivated enough to work on mine. The damn 9" is so frustrating. I have the damn diff cover sitting right next to my bed. I wake up every morning with that thing staring at me. Stupid axle.
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diff cover on a 9" ? maybe that is your problem...
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Theres your second problem. Should have bought a spool.



lol

i wish my 9" had a diff cover
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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photo leak! get more of these hah
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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Originally Posted by INT3RC3PTOR




photo leak! get more of these hah

??? he has a entire thread with these
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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not in this one now is there... i dont pay attention much to the photo ***** section
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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not in this one now is there... i dont pay attention much to the photo ***** section
haha, I have been bugging him to get over and flex it out....but its kind of hard when his truck has a certain situation...
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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if you ever sell this truck, i call dibs.
 
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haha, I have been bugging him to get over and flex it out....but its kind of hard when his truck has a certain situation...
hah word
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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if you ever sell this truck, i call dibs.
not if i give him cash first lol

I want more pics Zack
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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i was going to take some in the snow today but ran out of time.

2wd with grapplers and a locker is pretty interesting on the snow packed roads. LOL
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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You never cease to amaze me man. Looks great!!!!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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Bill? Bill signed on to RF!! no way.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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Do you have 4x4 or were you just running in 2wd for fun? So how hard was the swap really dosent seam that difficult looks like you just need to get your upper and lowers the right length? Or am i totally wrong
 
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it wasnt a bad swap, but i did several other things which made it cost more and take more time. its more than just arms.

i dont have 4wd right now. no driveshaft.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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Ya it looks like a pretty straight forward swap to me but im sure you could screw it up easy though.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009
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Originally Posted by zabeard
it wasnt a bad swap, but i did several other things which made it cost more and take more time. its more than just arms.

i dont have 4wd right now. no driveshaft.


hehe you got no driveshaft
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009
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zach, truck looks amazing and even better swap very very nice! your work keeps getting better and better.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009
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welcome back Jared!!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009
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thanks Jared! havent talked to you in ages!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009
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Originally Posted by ford rules
Ya it looks like a pretty straight forward swap to me but im sure you could screw it up easy though.

Its not that strait forward lol.....lots of research went into it to make it look easy
 
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Originally Posted by firefighterjosh
Its not that strait forward lol.....lots of research went into it to make it look easy
BINGO
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009
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I changed some numbers, when I get home I am going to measure to see if this will work. I like these numbers much better

Whats all this stuff even mean can some one kind of explain it? all i got out of it is that your lowers are 43" and uppers are 32" with 10" of seperation?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009
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Originally Posted by ford rules
Whats all this stuff even mean can some one kind of explain it? all i got out of it is that your lowers are 43" and uppers are 32" with 10" of seperation?
Well I don't know it all completely, but I'll try and help Beard out here.

The simple fields (the 5 in the upper left) I won't bother with. They should be pretty self explanatory (with maybe the exception of Sprung Mass CG 'Z'. I believe that is simply the Center of Gravity (COG) in the Z plane of the vehicle, meaning it's the height from the ground of the COG. Sprung Mass refers to weight of the vehicle that is supported by the suspension or total weight minus tires and axles). If not, let me know and I'll come back.

Second, what you said is actually incorrect. The X, Y, and Z parameters refer to the 3 dimensional lengths of each link with respect to the truck. So using geometry, you use those 3 lengths to determine the actual length of the links. You can find the length of a 2 sided system using Pythagoris Theorem

x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = Length ^2 (I think, it's been awhile since High School Geometry and Trig).

Or just google 3-link Calculator, and plug those value in and you should see it on the Material Tab in Excel. Nice when someone else does all the math for you. .

Anti-Squat, from what I've been able to tell is probably the most important, yet, most hard to explain, part of the whole spreadsheet. It essentially describes how the suspension will load and unload at certain times. From what I've read anywhere from 80%-120% is a decent number for a initial setup, but there is no hard set number because each rig will behave differently because each rig is different. And each rig is used for different terrain. You can research that for hours, but from what I've read, it's best to just set a number and experiment. It's one of the great things about link setups that you can switch them relatively easily to tune them for the best performance.

The Roll-Axis Angle, and Roll Center Height I guess I'm not sure on. I'm assuming the Roll-Axis Angle has to do with forces that are generating Body Roll (what angle that it will be) and the Roll Center Height I believe is the the Height where your COG is. Granted those are both guesses. Maybe Beard or someone who knows more can chime in and correct me (if I'm wrong which is probably the case).
 

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Old Jan 12, 2009
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new snow pics?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009
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They all came out blurry, must have had something on the lens.






maybe just maybe the guy at work will bring in his extra driveshaft and I will have 4wd
 
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