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maybe you should have let the guy in the dodge know you were racing him.that would have been cool.stock ranger against a old dodge maybe.ranger with 35's against a old dodge.would have to see it to believe it.had 32's on the 02 i had and it wouldn't smoke a dodge.it would keep up with a 350 not a vortec though.also had a f-150 with 35's and that thing was a dog.unless you have some sort of forced induction or something then i mite think about it.
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All mine and zachs friends have deisels. We are the only ones that don't have them lol. Trust me I have played race many times. STOCK Diesel's are SLLLOOOOOWWWW.

Even a edge 80+ HP chip just barley beats me
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here are some more times for a duramax. This is even with a Regular Juice Chip with the attitude level a 0. So this has a chip wonder how slow it is stock? over 17 easy

Run #1
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Track = 16.33 s @ 82.44 mph
Attitude = 16.5 s @ 85 mph
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level 0 is stock.1 is like 20 horse and up from there.when you put it on 0 it basically turns the chip off.but thanks for telling us this.you could have said it was on setting 5 or something.which is about 100 horse setting.
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level 0 is stock.1 is like 20 horse and up from there.when you put it on 0 it basically turns the chip off.but thanks for telling us this.you could have said it was on setting 5 or something.which is about 100 horse setting.
Ya your right. But they guy has some other mods done too. Exhaulst, intake, after reading he was just using the attitude to test something.

I posted a thread on Diesel Place.com we will see what comes up

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/sho...11#post2216011
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There was an Article in "Diesel Power" mag that has those times for a Duramax, I've never seen one run but my friend has one and it boogies.
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This has been one interesting thread to read. First, let me say I don't yet own a Ranger, though my son had an '89 2.9 2wd supercab long box that could get stuck on a wet driveway. I am, however, still shopping for a small pickup, and so far, the Ranger seems like the best available.

I have an '02 Dodge 2500HO CTD, 6 speed manual, 4x4, short box, quad cab. The only performance mod so far is a BHAF (big honking air filter). I get 16-20 mpg empty (depending on wind, hills, and stupid right foot), but with diesel running $3.25-3.50 per gallon, it doesn't make sense for my 40 mile/day commute ($80+ for a fill...ouch!).

I bought an 02 PT Cruiser for commuting, but I am a truck guy, so I'm shopping. I get 26-30 mpg depending on winter or summer fuel with the PTC, so I'd like a truck that gets close to 25 mpg (wife sort of demands that). That probably means 4 banger 2wd , but hey, it's still a truck.

Anyway, back to the topic of this post. I find it entertaining to read about racing trucks. I have seen it done. In fact I watched a 2005 Dodge CTD automatic win a bracket racing event. It was like watching a snail. He got about a half track lead. The reason he won though was he consistently hit his dial-in...every run! I don't think his runs varied by a tenth, which is really a trick when you are making 16+ second passes.

Gearing probably makes more difference than turbo lag. My Dodge winds up quickly in 2nd and 3rd (only use first when towing), but really wakes up in 4-5-6 gears. I don't know about Rangers, but I know a lot of kids in big-mufflered ricers wonder why they can't keep up with a big blue Dodge once I hit 4th gear.

That being said, trucks are for hauling/towing, not racing. My Dodge weighs 7000 empty...about twice what your Rangers weigh. As such, I would expect the lighter truck would leave faster, or should. On the other hand, if we were to hook a chain between my stock Dodge and your Ranger (with any mods you like) I would easily drag you all over town with your tires screaming and smoking until your little truck broke. Or hook both trucks to 10000 pound loads and let's drag race.

I'm not trying to insult anyone. As I said, from the research I have done, I think the Ranger is the best small pickup available. When used for their intended purpose, I don't think either the Ranger or the Dodge/Cummins can be beat.
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Diesel is $3.25-$3.50 a gallon where you are? Man you are lucky, it is like $3.85 over here.
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I think the most I have paid was $3.49, but I have a 34 gal. tank. It took $85 to fill it that time. I think I'll start filling at 3/4 of a tank. It might not seem so painful then.
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Haha yea I do that and I only have a 18 or 19 gallon tank. I am glad I don't have a diesel right now, but then again my friends F-350 gets better milage than my Ranger.
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Stock for stock Diesels are slow, but they adapt to mods very very well, giving them HUGE power gains. Gas and Diesel engines operate entirely different. Gas you add air to go fast, diesel you add fuel. Get injectors, intake, exhaust, tune, wicked wheel and you'll easily get 100+hp 200+ tq, if not more. My boss has 35 or 37s, I dont remember on a 2001 7.3 Excursion. It will easily spin the tires from a stand still with those mods. He hits 20+ lbs boost with stock turbo/engine (other then listed mods) and I have no doubt that truck could run 14s. Thats huge for a 10000lb truck. Hell my F150 supercharged Runs low 14s, but it was 5 grand to get the charger, put 5 grand in a Diesel and smoke my *** goodbye
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my dads powerstroke kills my ranger hands down!
Same here. He's got a 6.6 03 Dmax and its got nothin on my 4.0 ranger. His 7.3 PSTRK tho is insane. it could take me no prob stock, but after he put the entire Banks pack in his PSTRK, there was no comp. i love drivin that truck. it's like my rangers big bro.
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Haha yea I do that and I only have a 18 or 19 gallon tank. I am glad I don't have a diesel right now, but then again my friends F-350 gets better milage than my Ranger.
That sucks. i got the same prob. the powerstroke can get around 23-25 with conservative driving w/ a stnd. and im only gettin friggin 19!
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F350 dually with a FULL banks kit ( programming, Spool, Innercooler, exhaust.. the whole thing ) -vs- 03ranger ( mine, most of the specs in my profile ).

It wasn't much of a race at all. Once I was straight, it was OVER ( I was already 2 lengths ahead of him ). I can say that Super Duty is putting down more power then the average Diesel.

All that power doesn't do much good when its in a BOAT ANCHOR!

Brian ( Shybri from those in detroit/rochester that met him ) has a 06(07?) F150 with the 3valve 5.4. K&N intake, full bassani exhaust, programmer, Good tires.. ( he put down 350ish to the wheels on a local dyno ) couldn't catch me in the 8th even when I had no bottle. His best run is a 9.78 with no spare/tools/tailgate. On the tracks scales, I'm almost 1500lbs lighter then him ( 3100lbs without myself and a quarter tank of Ethanol ).

A non-lifted Ranger in 2wd form and an SOHC engine shouldn't have too much of a problem walking a full size TD from any brands.
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