Bob's swap project: Level II meets 5.0L

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Jul 13, 2007

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The NGS is the scan tool the dealers use to read codes, troubleshoot problems and do simple mods like flash a canned program on the PCM, re-set PATS, adjust speedometer for tire size or gearing, etc.. It does not have functionallity like a SCT PRP to go in and change all the engine / trans parameters individually.

As for headers, Bob is 100% correct. Those are the only off the shelf parts to fit the Explorer 302 / 98+ rangers. That is why I went custom and even then you can see the compromises.

Bob, what is the plan for exhaust? If doing full custom and doing your self, Stahl headers and Stainlessworks (.net) are great places to get bends. Burns Stainless ($$$), Specialty Products Design (SPD-$$$), Chassis Shop (NW Michigan), Headers by ed, and Woolf aircraft (Romulus) are good places as well.

any chance you could flash my pcm for 31" tires?
my dad(04 EDGE) needs his cluster flashed for the 4x4 abs and bigger tires.

btw, he(my dad) can get stainless pipe and bend it, his welds are very nice also.

Jul 13, 2007

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Bob, what is the plan for exhaust?

I'm mostly just hacking it together from the stock Ex cats/pipes, a Magnaflow and other stuff I have.

Jul 13, 2007

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Originally Posted by INT3RC3PTOR

looking good Bob, new d-shafts look perdy. cant wait to get mine done soon too cause then i can drive mine hah, except i need a new front shaft too, cause i didnt go the f-150 way like you

Are you sure that you can't just bolt on the 97~03 F150 front shaft? I believe that the Expedition also uses a 4406 transfer case like mine - just electric instead of manual.

Jul 16, 2007

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i never really thought of it till you did it. i still have to so maybe i will see what i can dig one up for, and then get the rear shortened etc.

Jul 19, 2007

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I know this isn't on topic but Bob, I need to ask you a question, without giving away an ebay auction, how can I contact you?

Jul 19, 2007

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I know this isn't on topic but Bob, I need to ask you a question, without giving away an ebay auction, how can I contact you?

PM?

Jul 19, 2007

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Now, after making the smart @$$ comments like you normally do, try and PM him. You think I would ask publicly if I could have easily PM'ed him myself?

Jul 19, 2007

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yea i do.......easiest way for people is to not try themselves...

Jul 19, 2007

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Email him. Click on his avatar and contact him via email.... For some reason, his PM option is missing, maybe thats because its full, who knows...

Jul 19, 2007

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Greygoose you can't email him either, click the button and you will see what I mean. I did get in touch with him though, so thanks!

Jul 26, 2007

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Greygoose you can't email him either, click the button and you will see what I mean. I did get in touch with him though, so thanks!

Sorry.... I guess I should have checked it first...lol

So Bob, any more progress??

Jul 26, 2007

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Originally Posted by greygooseranger

Sorry.... I guess I should have checked it first...lol

So Bob, any more progress??

Many electrical things: Complete PATS tearup and conversion to 99 Ex, Ranger/Explorer hybrid starter/charging harness, O/D Cancel Switch and O/D OFF light wiring. While I was there, I integrated the wires for my low oil alert and A/F gauge into the engine harness and rerouted the overhead console temp sensor wiring through a grommeted hole in the firewall.

The accessory drive is now on the engine and the upper and lower intakes are also installed.

The big project is still packaging the pipes, cats and muffler. If I can, I'm going to work on that later today.

Jul 26, 2007

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sweet, it sounds like you are so close to being road ready!!!!!

Jul 26, 2007

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Sounds like a lot of work Bob. Been keeping you busy i bet!

Jul 26, 2007

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Sounds like a lot of work Bob. Been keeping you busy i bet!

I guess I didn't pick the easiest project, LOL. V6 to V8, manual to auto, giant t-case, different PATS and speed sensor setup, interior rework, dual exhaust with 4 cats and the humungo-muffler from hell ....

Jul 26, 2007

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^^^^ Oh Bob, don't tell me you are putting the stock exhaust from the explorer on the ranger? :(

Jul 26, 2007

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Why use a gigantic muffler? Why not go with a smaller one?

Jul 26, 2007

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Why use a gigantic muffler? Why not go with a smaller one?

I like the V8 sound but not I'm not into excessive noise or highway drone. So my choice was a 22" dual in/dual out MagnaFlow with internal crossover (similar in function to an X-pipe). It is much larger than a stock Ranger muffler.

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Oh Bob, don't tell me you are putting the stock exhaust from the explorer on the ranger? :(

TM headers and the stock duals from the 5.0L Explorer ahead of the MagnaFlow, then SLP Thunderbolt duals after. The 4 stock Explorer cats will stay but they do make packaging the whole exhaust system a bit more challenging.

Jul 26, 2007

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Hey Bob, what are you doing with your manual transmission setup and manual transfercase? I may be very interested...

-TJ

Jul 26, 2007

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Hey Bob, what are you doing with your manual transmission setup and manual transfercase? I may be very interested...

-TJ

The transfer case is history but the transmission/clutch is still available. 4.0L engine, too, for anyone looking for one.

Less than 28,000 miles.

https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=44329

Jul 26, 2007

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shoot.. i was gona ask for a sound clip if you get done before me..but nevermind to that exhaust! im gona be running "A" cat and 3" to the muffler 3" single in dual out 2.5" into dual dumps behing the bumper or somthing..still figuring it out

progress is good though! cant wait to see yers done!

Jul 26, 2007

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Today, I worked on the exhaust. It is a fairly big project to package the pipes, 4 cats and mega-Magnaflow muffler in the small available space in such a way that they won't rub, rattle or do other offensive things. It's a three dimensional juggling act while reclining on a comfy wooden creeper and trying to tack things together without catching on fire. I bought a 2-lb spool of stainless wire for the MIG ($25!) and proceeded to lay down some strong (but ugly) simulated pseudo beads on the used pipes and cats. Anyway, some progress was made and I have a mass of twisted weirdness completed up to the muffler.

I'll try to get some photos of the carnage later.

Jul 26, 2007

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that last reply you almost seem unhappy with the result. little frustrated maybe? Sounds like it could be very easily.

Anything end up hanging lower then stock?

Jul 26, 2007

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that last reply you almost seem unhappy with the result.

I'm happy with the results but I would have liked to have done nicer looking welds. Still learning.

Jul 26, 2007

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I'm happy with the results but I would have liked to have done nicer looking welds. Still learning.

I understand completely. I took 2 years worth of welding classes in high school, where I became a passable mig welder. 5 years later, after not even looking at a mig, I tried my hand at welding an easy butt-joint. The resulting weld was less than great.