Bob's swap project: Level II meets 5.0L
Originally Posted by Rockledge
Bob, do you foresee any issues using the '99 Explorer PCM with your Ranger '03 GEM and PATS system?
Looking good Bob! Iare you ready / done with the PATS re-synch? I may be able to get ahold of an NGS to do this if you want, let me know. I will ask my buddy tomorrow. Not sure if he has an Explorer card, but who knows.
Also, did D.S. quote what an all new shaft would have been? With the ability to use a stock front shaft and the low cost of the rear, I may just put in my 4406 when I pop the old 302 back in. Yes, I am temporarily throwing in the towel on the 351W and poping the 302 back in with a set of TW heads, cam, and a bypass for the Kenne Bell.
Sadly, I won't get to use these:


AND, I will only be running the FRPP explorer headers, which are only marginally better than the stockers. You made a wise choice with the TM headers. I have over $1000 in my custom headers, which A) are not optimal by a long shot, B) are only 1 3/4", and C) were done by me - I could not image the price if I would have had done. The engine bay on these trucks is down right rediculous. I guess that is what happens when you shoe horn a V8 into a platform that was never intended / designed for it!
Also, did D.S. quote what an all new shaft would have been? With the ability to use a stock front shaft and the low cost of the rear, I may just put in my 4406 when I pop the old 302 back in. Yes, I am temporarily throwing in the towel on the 351W and poping the 302 back in with a set of TW heads, cam, and a bypass for the Kenne Bell.
Sadly, I won't get to use these:


AND, I will only be running the FRPP explorer headers, which are only marginally better than the stockers. You made a wise choice with the TM headers. I have over $1000 in my custom headers, which A) are not optimal by a long shot, B) are only 1 3/4", and C) were done by me - I could not image the price if I would have had done. The engine bay on these trucks is down right rediculous. I guess that is what happens when you shoe horn a V8 into a platform that was never intended / designed for it!
Originally Posted by tmsoko
Looking good Bob! Iare you ready / done with the PATS re-synch? I may be able to get ahold of an NGS to do this if you want, let me know. I will ask my buddy tomorrow. Not sure if he has an Explorer card, but who knows.
I just dropped the engine in tonight with the new headers on it. Got the flex plate lined up with the torque converter and then it started to get late, so I put it away for the night.
Still waiting for the last of the PATS parts to arrive plus I have to modify the stock Ex cats to fit and build the rest of the system after the cats.
The interior's still all out, partly because of the swap, partly because of the Edge floor swap and partly because of the center console/ t-case shifter fantasy.
So it will still be awhile before I need the NGS. Thanks for the offer!
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Hey Bob..
Did you consider using ' shorty ' or Block hugger hedders like a street rod would use. I bet they fit
. Sure, their not Tri-Y or ' equal length ', but they would be very cost effective and offer ample room.
I'm a tad bit behind where your at.
Did you consider using ' shorty ' or Block hugger hedders like a street rod would use. I bet they fit
. Sure, their not Tri-Y or ' equal length ', but they would be very cost effective and offer ample room.I'm a tad bit behind where your at.
Originally Posted by D.
Did you consider using ' shorty ' or Block hugger hedders like a street rod would use. I bet they fit
. Sure, their not Tri-Y or ' equal length ', but they would be very cost effective and offer ample room.
. Sure, their not Tri-Y or ' equal length ', but they would be very cost effective and offer ample room.AFAIK, there are just 4 bolt-on possibilities for a 98+ 5.0L Ranger:
Early 5.0 Ex production stainless manifolds (poor flow);
Late 5.0 Ex production cast iron manifolds (poor flow);
FRPP stainless tube headers (similar layout to production but with improved flow);
Torque Monster headers (best available but still compromised).
Here's what the headers look like bolted up to the engine.
The unusual shape of the DS header is to clear the angled steering shaft.

The spaghetti on the passenger side is to clear the A/C box and upper A-arm and still have the outlet flange in the factory location. The fitting on the upper tube is for EGR.

Happiness is dropping in the V8 with its new tubes.
The unusual shape of the DS header is to clear the angled steering shaft.

The spaghetti on the passenger side is to clear the A/C box and upper A-arm and still have the outlet flange in the factory location. The fitting on the upper tube is for EGR.

Happiness is dropping in the V8 with its new tubes.
Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
i might have missed it, but did you do any performance mods to the 302 before dropping her in?
I have a phenolic Ford Racing heat insulator that will go between the upper and lower manifolds and hopefully improve intake charge density a bit.
The only other mods are external to the engine itself and they are just minor breathing improvements. I'm using the stock 5.0L Ex duals and cats reshaped to fit bewteen the larger transfer case and the narrower Ranger frame rails. Then into a Magnaflow DI/DO and out into dual tailpipes. I'm going to reuse the SLP Thunderbolt air box and filter, too.
That's it.
Originally Posted by greygooseranger
So how long until done Bob? It looks like you have come along way already!
Originally Posted by zabeard
Lookin good bob! I think that is the first partial shot of the truck we have seen.
Side note... Bob needs a new camera
hehe
Side note... Bob needs a new camera
hehe
Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
todd this NGS you talk about is that a reflashing tool?
if so could you PM me?
if so could you PM me?
As for headers, Bob is 100% correct. Those are the only off the shelf parts to fit the Explorer 302 / 98+ rangers. That is why I went custom and even then you can see the compromises.
Bob, what is the plan for exhaust? If doing full custom and doing your self, Stahl headers and Stainlessworks (.net) are great places to get bends. Burns Stainless ($$$), Specialty Products Design (SPD-$$$), Chassis Shop (NW Michigan), Headers by ed, and Woolf aircraft (Romulus) are good places as well.
Originally Posted by Gearhead61
Maybe I missed this, but are you using a column shifter or a floor shifter for the automatic trans? What is your eventual plan for the interior?
Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
he is using a column shifter.....i think there is a picture of it on page 3 of this thread.......if i remember, it is an Explorer column...

The interior stays basic LII but gets the full length Ex console and trip computer. The original LII T/C shifter gets an F150 linkage and shifter boot.





