Bob's swap project: Level II meets 5.0L - Page 13 - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


Project Logs For detailed builds specific to the Ford Ranger, one thread per vehicle please.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #301  
Old 09-13-2007
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangerboy03lvl2
finished pics?!?!
It's driveable but not finished yet. Need to refit the bumper, grill, front skid plate, etc. after I get completely done with the cooling system fiasco.

As far as the engine bay goes, these pictures have already been posted and pretty much tell the story. The battery and hood have been installed since.






Last edited by V8 Level II; 01-30-2008 at 04:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #302  
Old 09-13-2007
Mark98xlt's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Parma Ohio
Posts: 13
looks good bob, I still have those 3.55 gears if you want them.
Reply With Quote
  #303  
Old 09-13-2007
tmsoko's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Plymouth, MI
Posts: 247
[QUOTE=rwenzing]No, I haven't weighed it. 4500 was just a guesstimate.
[QUOTE]

Your guess will be pretty darn close! I was 4520lbs on the certified scales at work. That was me in it (~150lbs at the time), fiberglass hard top on the step side bed, and 12" sub / 5 channel amp. All else was stock ranger or explorer v8.
Reply With Quote
  #304  
Old 09-13-2007
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
looks killer, Only thing i dont like about mine is that it doesnt look as good in a bL'd truck cause it looks like i have no motor at eye level lol.. oh well more room for a giant blower right?...pfff
Reply With Quote
  #305  
Old 09-15-2007
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Quote:
Originally Posted by INT3RC3PTOR
let me know what you findings are on trying to keep the Ranger module in place and just use the explorer one for VSS. I'd be interested in doing that if you find a way to make it work.
This is not looking good.

I received the Explorer 4WABS/VSS Module today and set it up for the correct 677 tire revs/mile. I thought things were going well until I fired it up and tried it. I found out that I can get the speedometer to work OR I can get the 4WABS to work. If I wire them both at the same time, the ABS seems happy but the speedometer stays at zero.

This is what I was thinking could happen and hoping it would not. Apparently, the signal from the rear axle sensor can't quite supply the two modules at once.

I'm going to pull the axle sensor tomorrow and clean it just for grins. Probably won't help.

Then I'll be off to plan B but I don't know what that is yet....
Reply With Quote
  #306  
Old 09-15-2007
Rangerboy03lvl2's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Colorado, Lone Tree
Posts: 891
good luck bob!
Reply With Quote
  #307  
Old 09-16-2007
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
damn, well I'm going to be tackling this on monday and tues. and I think i'm just going to swap the full system besides the G-meter thing cause i dont care about abs. i just want my speedo to read and my trans to be at optimal.

i hope you get things strait!
Reply With Quote
  #308  
Old 09-18-2007
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Speedometer is operational again!

I finally got the speedometer and ABS to cooperate and work at the same time. The winning combination is the 03 Ranger factory 4WABS module and a GEM out of a 2001 2.5L Ranger. In my truck, the 01 GEM handles only the VSS signal conversion and tire diameter adjustment while the factory 03 GEM continues to perform all of its intended functions. The original 03 4WABS is unaffected.

This was mocked up in the garage with the rear axle on stands and a bunch of jumpers under the hood, so I haven't been able to drive it yet with the speedo working. I now need to move all the VSS wiring to the interior instead of under the hood - The GEM is not weatherproof like the Explorer 4WABS Module that I originally planned to use.

Just to make things more interesting, one of my Eldorado rear calipers decided to spring a leak for some unknown reason. I think my Ford's immune system may be rejecting the transplanted GM parts....

Last edited by V8 Level II; 09-18-2007 at 11:21 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #309  
Old 09-18-2007
zabeard's Avatar
who?
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: IN
Posts: 26,045
bob i dont want to know how you came up with that combination of parts! lol

glad you got it figured out tho
Reply With Quote
  #310  
Old 09-18-2007
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Quote:
Originally Posted by zabeard
bob i dont want to know how you came up with that combination of parts!
I'm going to tell you anyway!

I was studying the wiring manuals and I found out that Ford did something very similar on the early 2001MY 4-cylinders. These trucks are a unique combination of carry-over 2.5L's from 2000, the new 01+ 4WABS, no PATS. The raw vehicle speed pulse comes from the rear axle ABS sensor and is corrected in the GEM as is done in 98~00 RABS trucks. [Later in 01, the 4-cylinder Ranger switched over to the 2.3L DOHC version which has the raw speed signal taken from the transmission output shaft sensor and corrected in the PCM like the V6's.]

The important thing to me is that the 2001 2.5's run both the 4WABS Module and the GEM paralleled off the single rear axle ABS sensor - that's why I knew it should work on mine.

Last edited by V8 Level II; 09-19-2007 at 12:05 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #311  
Old 09-18-2007
01xltranger4x4's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 3,200
Bob you are too good, glad everything is worked out. Cant wait to see the finished pics.
Reply With Quote
  #312  
Old 09-19-2007
texasbullseye89's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Huntsville, Tx
Posts: 827
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwenzing
I'm going to tell you anyway!

I was studying the wiring manuals and I found out that Ford did something very similar on the early 2001MY 4-cylinders. These trucks are a unique combination of carry-over 2.5L's from 2000, the new 01 4WABS with EFBD but no PATS. The raw vehicle speed pulse comes from the rear axle ABS sensor and is corrected in the GEM as is done in 98~00 RABS trucks. [Later in 01, the Ranger switched over to the 2.3L DOHC version which has the raw speed signal taken from the transmission output shaft sensor and corrected in the PCM like the V6's.]

The important thing to me is that the 2001 2.5's run both the 4WABS Module and the GEM paralleled off the single rear axle ABS sensor - that's why I knew it should work on mine.

i think my brain just popped. i feel a leaking sensation.
Reply With Quote
  #313  
Old 09-19-2007
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
Bob could you possibly make up a how-to on it, or let me know where you wired things to. If that proccess is easier than swapping out the whole module i'd be interested
Reply With Quote
  #314  
Old 09-19-2007
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Quote:
Originally Posted by INT3RC3PTOR
Bob could you possibly make up a how-to on it, or let me know where you wired things to. If that proccess is easier than swapping out the whole module i'd be interested
PM sent.
Reply With Quote
  #315  
Old 09-19-2007
lifted97ranger's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Charlestown, IN
Posts: 1
Bob you are the man.....glad things are starting to come together for you and getting the truck finalized!
Reply With Quote
  #316  
Old 09-19-2007
winks's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Jackson, New Jersey
Posts: 4,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by texasbullseye89

i think my brain just popped. i feel a leaking sensation.
Haha... I feel so inferior. Good work Bob.
Reply With Quote
  #317  
Old 09-19-2007
zabeard's Avatar
who?
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: IN
Posts: 26,045
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwenzing
I'm going to tell you anyway!

I was studying the wiring manuals and I found out that Ford did something very similar on the early 2001MY 4-cylinders. These trucks are a unique combination of carry-over 2.5L's from 2000, the new 01+ 4WABS, no PATS. The raw vehicle speed pulse comes from the rear axle ABS sensor and is corrected in the GEM as is done in 98~00 RABS trucks. [Later in 01, the 4-cylinder Ranger switched over to the 2.3L DOHC version which has the raw speed signal taken from the transmission output shaft sensor and corrected in the PCM like the V6's.]

The important thing to me is that the 2001 2.5's run both the 4WABS Module and the GEM paralleled off the single rear axle ABS sensor - that's why I knew it should work on mine.
i think 99% of people would have never noticed that.
Reply With Quote
  #318  
Old 09-22-2007
klc317's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 950
How about posting up a video if you get time? I'd love to see and hear it running.
Reply With Quote
  #319  
Old 09-22-2007
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Quote:
Originally Posted by klc317
How about posting up a video if you get time? I'd love to see and hear it running.
Soon but it's undriveable right now. I'm repairing a leaky caliper seal and then I'll move on to permanently relocating the VSS wiring to the interior.
Reply With Quote
  #320  
Old 09-28-2007
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Ok, it's on the road again.

The caliper is fixed and I moved the VSS wiring to the interior and got the 2nd GEM mounted under the right kick panel where the 4x4 module would be on electric shift Rangers. I also relocated the trans cooler higher up. It was functional as-is but looked like it could get the hoses kinked if I ever folded up the imitation front skid plate.

So, FINALLY, the truck has a speedometer that works and it still has the factory ABS/EBFD that I wanted to retain. Along with the speedometer, the VSS allows other niceties like cruise control, SSV and the rest of the trip computer calculations.

Speaking of which, I'm probably going to wrap it around a tree gawking at the instantaneous fuel economy readout. Cruising at 55 gives 20+ MPG but it's REAL easy to dip into single digits on accels. WOT usually runs at 3~4 MPG and I managed to dip it to 2MPG briefly by doing a gorilla stomp off the line in 2nd gear. Fun with bronto juice...
Reply With Quote
  #321  
Old 09-28-2007
winks's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Jackson, New Jersey
Posts: 4,872
Haha, glad to hear its on the road again... please don't wrap it around a tree.

How do you like the new power?
Reply With Quote
  #322  
Old 09-28-2007
lifted97ranger's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Charlestown, IN
Posts: 1
sweet Bob! i wanna see this thing in person!
Reply With Quote
  #323  
Old 09-28-2007
RazorsEDGE's Avatar
There's no lifeguard in the gene pool
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 7,501
Bob congrats on finally getting it done. Now you know we need a whole slew of pictures!
Reply With Quote
  #324  
Old 09-28-2007
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
video with lots of sound.. i wanna hear what yours sounds comparred to mine. I'm guessing i'm gona be a bit more raw than you. But i dont have my headers yet... maybe spring
Reply With Quote
  #325  
Old 09-28-2007
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Mine's actually very quiet. It has a 4 cats, a giant 22 x 11 x 6 DI/DO Magnaflow and duals out to the rear bumper. Just a bit of V8 rumble at idle and it makes a little more noise at WOT. No drone in the cab anymore after the tailpipes went on.

I'll have to see if I can come up with a way to record it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
level one vs level two CountryboyNC General Ford Ranger Discussion 28 04-02-2006 02:29 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:53 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.