Bob's swap project: Level II meets 5.0L
#301
09-13-2007
Originally Posted by Rangerboy03lvl2
finished pics?!?!
As far as the engine bay goes, these pictures have already been posted and pretty much tell the story. The battery and hood have been installed since.
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09-13-2007
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[QUOTE=rwenzing]No, I haven't weighed it. 4500 was just a guesstimate.
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Your guess will be pretty darn close! I was 4520lbs on the certified scales at work. That was me in it (~150lbs at the time), fiberglass hard top on the step side bed, and 12" sub / 5 channel amp. All else was stock ranger or explorer v8.
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Your guess will be pretty darn close! I was 4520lbs on the certified scales at work. That was me in it (~150lbs at the time), fiberglass hard top on the step side bed, and 12" sub / 5 channel amp. All else was stock ranger or explorer v8.
#304
09-13-2007
#305
09-15-2007
Originally Posted by INT3RC3PTOR
let me know what you findings are on trying to keep the Ranger module in place and just use the explorer one for VSS. I'd be interested in doing that if you find a way to make it work.
I received the Explorer 4WABS/VSS Module today and set it up for the correct 677 tire revs/mile. I thought things were going well until I fired it up and tried it. I found out that I can get the speedometer to work OR I can get the 4WABS to work. If I wire them both at the same time, the ABS seems happy but the speedometer stays at zero.
This is what I was thinking could happen and hoping it would not. Apparently, the signal from the rear axle sensor can't quite supply the two modules at once.
I'm going to pull the axle sensor tomorrow and clean it just for grins. Probably won't help.
Then I'll be off to plan B but I don't know what that is yet....
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09-15-2007
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09-16-2007
#308
09-18-2007
Speedometer is operational again!
I finally got the speedometer and ABS to cooperate and work at the same time. The winning combination is the 03 Ranger factory 4WABS module and a GEM out of a 2001 2.5L Ranger. In my truck, the 01 GEM handles only the VSS signal conversion and tire diameter adjustment while the factory 03 GEM continues to perform all of its intended functions. The original 03 4WABS is unaffected.
This was mocked up in the garage with the rear axle on stands and a bunch of jumpers under the hood, so I haven't been able to drive it yet with the speedo working. I now need to move all the VSS wiring to the interior instead of under the hood - The GEM is not weatherproof like the Explorer 4WABS Module that I originally planned to use.
Just to make things more interesting, one of my Eldorado rear calipers decided to spring a leak for some unknown reason. I think my Ford's immune system may be rejecting the transplanted GM parts....
This was mocked up in the garage with the rear axle on stands and a bunch of jumpers under the hood, so I haven't been able to drive it yet with the speedo working. I now need to move all the VSS wiring to the interior instead of under the hood - The GEM is not weatherproof like the Explorer 4WABS Module that I originally planned to use.
Just to make things more interesting, one of my Eldorado rear calipers decided to spring a leak for some unknown reason. I think my Ford's immune system may be rejecting the transplanted GM parts....
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#310
09-18-2007
Originally Posted by zabeard
bob i dont want to know how you came up with that combination of parts!
I was studying the wiring manuals and I found out that Ford did something very similar on the early 2001MY 4-cylinders. These trucks are a unique combination of carry-over 2.5L's from 2000, the new 01+ 4WABS, no PATS. The raw vehicle speed pulse comes from the rear axle ABS sensor and is corrected in the GEM as is done in 98~00 RABS trucks. [Later in 01, the 4-cylinder Ranger switched over to the 2.3L DOHC version which has the raw speed signal taken from the transmission output shaft sensor and corrected in the PCM like the V6's.]
The important thing to me is that the 2001 2.5's run both the 4WABS Module and the GEM paralleled off the single rear axle ABS sensor - that's why I knew it should work on mine.
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09-18-2007
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Originally Posted by rwenzing
I'm going to tell you anyway!
I was studying the wiring manuals and I found out that Ford did something very similar on the early 2001MY 4-cylinders. These trucks are a unique combination of carry-over 2.5L's from 2000, the new 01 4WABS with EFBD but no PATS. The raw vehicle speed pulse comes from the rear axle ABS sensor and is corrected in the GEM as is done in 98~00 RABS trucks. [Later in 01, the Ranger switched over to the 2.3L DOHC version which has the raw speed signal taken from the transmission output shaft sensor and corrected in the PCM like the V6's.]
The important thing to me is that the 2001 2.5's run both the 4WABS Module and the GEM paralleled off the single rear axle ABS sensor - that's why I knew it should work on mine.
I was studying the wiring manuals and I found out that Ford did something very similar on the early 2001MY 4-cylinders. These trucks are a unique combination of carry-over 2.5L's from 2000, the new 01 4WABS with EFBD but no PATS. The raw vehicle speed pulse comes from the rear axle ABS sensor and is corrected in the GEM as is done in 98~00 RABS trucks. [Later in 01, the Ranger switched over to the 2.3L DOHC version which has the raw speed signal taken from the transmission output shaft sensor and corrected in the PCM like the V6's.]
The important thing to me is that the 2001 2.5's run both the 4WABS Module and the GEM paralleled off the single rear axle ABS sensor - that's why I knew it should work on mine.
i think my brain just popped. i feel a leaking sensation.
#313
09-19-2007
#314
09-19-2007
#315
09-19-2007
#317
09-19-2007
Originally Posted by rwenzing
I'm going to tell you anyway!
I was studying the wiring manuals and I found out that Ford did something very similar on the early 2001MY 4-cylinders. These trucks are a unique combination of carry-over 2.5L's from 2000, the new 01+ 4WABS, no PATS. The raw vehicle speed pulse comes from the rear axle ABS sensor and is corrected in the GEM as is done in 98~00 RABS trucks. [Later in 01, the 4-cylinder Ranger switched over to the 2.3L DOHC version which has the raw speed signal taken from the transmission output shaft sensor and corrected in the PCM like the V6's.]
The important thing to me is that the 2001 2.5's run both the 4WABS Module and the GEM paralleled off the single rear axle ABS sensor - that's why I knew it should work on mine.
I was studying the wiring manuals and I found out that Ford did something very similar on the early 2001MY 4-cylinders. These trucks are a unique combination of carry-over 2.5L's from 2000, the new 01+ 4WABS, no PATS. The raw vehicle speed pulse comes from the rear axle ABS sensor and is corrected in the GEM as is done in 98~00 RABS trucks. [Later in 01, the 4-cylinder Ranger switched over to the 2.3L DOHC version which has the raw speed signal taken from the transmission output shaft sensor and corrected in the PCM like the V6's.]
The important thing to me is that the 2001 2.5's run both the 4WABS Module and the GEM paralleled off the single rear axle ABS sensor - that's why I knew it should work on mine.
#319
09-22-2007
#320
09-28-2007
Ok, it's on the road again.
The caliper is fixed and I moved the VSS wiring to the interior and got the 2nd GEM mounted under the right kick panel where the 4x4 module would be on electric shift Rangers. I also relocated the trans cooler higher up. It was functional as-is but looked like it could get the hoses kinked if I ever folded up the imitation front skid plate.
So, FINALLY, the truck has a speedometer that works and it still has the factory ABS/EBFD that I wanted to retain. Along with the speedometer, the VSS allows other niceties like cruise control, SSV and the rest of the trip computer calculations.
Speaking of which, I'm probably going to wrap it around a tree gawking at the instantaneous fuel economy readout. Cruising at 55 gives 20+ MPG but it's REAL easy to dip into single digits on accels. WOT usually runs at 3~4 MPG and I managed to dip it to 2MPG briefly by doing a gorilla stomp off the line in 2nd gear. Fun with bronto juice...
The caliper is fixed and I moved the VSS wiring to the interior and got the 2nd GEM mounted under the right kick panel where the 4x4 module would be on electric shift Rangers. I also relocated the trans cooler higher up. It was functional as-is but looked like it could get the hoses kinked if I ever folded up the imitation front skid plate.
So, FINALLY, the truck has a speedometer that works and it still has the factory ABS/EBFD that I wanted to retain. Along with the speedometer, the VSS allows other niceties like cruise control, SSV and the rest of the trip computer calculations.
Speaking of which, I'm probably going to wrap it around a tree gawking at the instantaneous fuel economy readout. Cruising at 55 gives 20+ MPG but it's REAL easy to dip into single digits on accels. WOT usually runs at 3~4 MPG and I managed to dip it to 2MPG briefly by doing a gorilla stomp off the line in 2nd gear. Fun with bronto juice...
#322
09-28-2007
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09-28-2007
#325
09-28-2007
Mine's actually very quiet. It has a 4 cats, a giant 22 x 11 x 6 DI/DO Magnaflow and duals out to the rear bumper. Just a bit of V8 rumble at idle and it makes a little more noise at WOT. No drone in the cab anymore after the tailpipes went on.
I'll have to see if I can come up with a way to record it.
I'll have to see if I can come up with a way to record it.
