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If your traveling at 200MPH, you don't need a fan at all!!!!
so when in the draft you are saying they get enough air through the radiator to cool the engine? BS....
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If your that worried about it, get rid of the AC compressor & PS pump!!!!

You are really asking for trouble with an electric water pump!!!
you really are dumber than a box of rocks......and every post you make shows that......

so then i am asking for trouble out of my ELECTRIC stereo then the way you act anything electrical is bad.....i am not going to an electric water pump; read my post again.....i am going to an electric motor driven water pump....the same kind used on many big block v8's and even race cars......so i guess those $250,000 race cars are asking for trouble when they put on an electric water pumps

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Some day you will realize a Ranger is not designed or built to be a race car!
some day you will realize that everything i do to my truck is so i don't have the same thing as the next guy with a Ranger....

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I hate to see young people waste their money on useless "performance mods"!!
so if i had a '69 Camaro SS, then any performance mods that i bought for it wouldn't be useless money? according to you anything you do to a vehicle is a waste of money.....with that attitude, i don't see you hanging around here long.....i would bet that 98% of the site usage is to find out about new mods......more than not people are looking for performance mods.....
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How often does a Thermostat go out? I have 83k and I have replaced the stat once already I think around 55k miles. Surely its not trash already??

Fluid has been flushed 3-4 maybe 5 times. lol
Every 2 years I replace the tstat. Truck is a 99 with 123k and needs replacing again.


I use the stock ford part. If I don't replace it I wont have heat in the winter.
If I use a cheaper tstat I don't get a consistent temp will driving.
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you really are dumber than a box of rocks......and every post you make shows that......

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Really????? Running 35 X 12.5's and worried about the load a fan or water pump is putting on your engine???

Talk about the peak of intelligence!!!!!

Obviously, you have never taken any physics, or ME classes!!!

Do you know how to calculate alternator load on an engine????
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Really????? Running 35 X 12.5's and worried about the load a fan or water pump is putting on your engine???

Talk about the peak of intelligence!!!!!
and i compinsated for the larger tires by gearing....duh.....

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Obviously, you have never taken any physics, or ME classes!!!
actually i have.....wanna copy of my transcripts?

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Do you know how to calculate alternator load on an engine????
i guess not, why don't you educate us....
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"i am not going to an electric water pump; read my post again.....i am going to an electric motor driven water pump.."


This might end up being one of those "Famous Quotes"
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actually i have.....wanna copy of my transcripts?

Yes, I can't wait to see what school they are from!!!!
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"i am not going to an electric water pump; read my post again.....i am going to an electric motor driven water pump.."


This might end up being one of those "Famous Quotes"
dude my water pump will still be a mechanical BELT driven water pump, just wont be the 4.0 turning the pump.....
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This guy is a tool bag... All he likes to do is argue with people. Could he really be the member formerly know as quest??
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dude my water pump will still be a mechanical BELT driven water pump, just wont be the 4.0 turning the pump.....
Brilliant!! And what is powering the motor driving the pump?????
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This guy is a tool bag... All he likes to do is argue with people. Could he really be the member formerly know as quest??

he is not really arguing IMO.
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he is not really arguing IMO.
To each his own. I think he is being argumentative.
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Brilliant!! And what is powering the motor driving the pump?????
electric.......electrical componets are just as reliable as mechanical componets.....if they weren't then no one would be able to sell them and people with expensive cars (ie: race cars) wouldn't use them.......

anything to reduce the load on the engine is better for the engine; common sense tells you that.....any and all load that is reduced on the engine not only frees up power/torque that was lost because of the extra load, but it also increases engine life....


here is a new concept for ya: you do what you want to your truck, and i will do the same to mine.........if what i do doesn't work, then so be it, i learned something from it......i will listen to your opinion, but i wont be preached at, i am not in church and you are not preaching the proper words....
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Here's my experince with the e-fan.

I had the June's Modified 16" e-fan on mine. The engine ran slightly warmer, and the a/c was noticeably cooler...even in stop & go city driving. However, the tranny would not stay below 200, and usually hovered around 210-220. On the highway, temps were normal..around 170.

After much discussion on here, with friends, mechanics, etc, I decided to put it in the stock shroud. Now the engine temps came back down to normal, a/c still colder than with the stock fan, BUT still no change with the tranny. SO I addded a 7 1/2" fan to the stock tranny cooler. That kept my tranny temps in the 190-200 range, unless I towed something.

Finally got frustrated, put the stock mechanical fan back on, and have never looked back.

However, a friend of mine with an 02 (almost identical to mine) recently mated an 18" Jeep e-fan to his stock shroud. I'll have to double check, but I think it came from an 05 or 06 8cyl Cherokee. Anyway, this thing is a BEAST. Supposedly pulls in the neighborhood of 4000cfm. The outside temps haven't been too terrible yet, but he's been pulling his 24' camper, boat, and work trailer so far without any problems. In fact, he says his tranny is running a little cooler than normal. I'm going to watch his for the rest of the summer to see how it does when tamps get to 100+ here. If this combination works, I'll probably try it next year.
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However, a friend of mine with an 02 (almost identical to mine) recently mated an 18" Jeep e-fan to his stock shroud. I'll have to double check, but I think it came from an 05 or 06 8cyl Cherokee. Anyway, this thing is a BEAST. Supposedly pulls in the neighborhood of 4000cfm.
let me know what it came from and how it was wired up and i will find one and try it out.....i am willing to be a guinney pig....
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Every 2 years I replace the tstat. Truck is a 99 with 123k and needs replacing again.


I use the stock ford part. If I don't replace it I wont have heat in the winter.
If I use a cheaper tstat I don't get a consistent temp will driving.

Well they are cheap so I'll pick up a replacement tonight.
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Well they are cheap so I'll pick up a replacement tonight.
i would recommend getting a lower temp t-stat from Summit....i don't think an auto parts store carries the lower temp t-stats...

here ya go Beard.....and since Summit is next day shipping for ya....

JET Powertech Thermostat (180*):
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...w=1&N=700+150+
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^^^^Will that fit my 04 as well?
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^^^^Will that fit my 04 as well?
yea they say up to 2003, but the 4.0's haven't changed since the introduction of the SOHC....
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I went with a standard t-stat, maybe I will change it again.
I use a 180degree tstat from a mustang. You will have to modify it a bit to fit, but you won't have to remove a ' lot ' of material ( its a bit longer and hits the bottom of the elbow in the housing )

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As for the Fan it was the only 16" carquest had and we called the manufacturer and they said that 1800 cfm was enough for the ranger, I questioned it but that is all they had and i needed one.
I believe you have just told us what the problem is :)
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Summit has a 16" fan that pulls somewhere around 3200 CFM (give or take a 100 or so).......
Thats the one I use. S-blade Be-Cool type.
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I use a 180degree tstat from a mustang. You will have to modify it a bit to fit, but you won't have to remove a ' lot ' of material ( its a bit longer and hits the bottom of the elbow in the housing )
get the one from JET for a Ranger and you wont have to modify it

wow i am glas we finally agree on something
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To each his own. I think he is being argumentative.
I agree with you!!!! Any time I see somebody endorsing a product (like your Scamsoil products) that a youngster is going to waste his money on, your going to get some kind of argument out of me!!!!

I'm trying to protect our youngsters!! Most of them have limited finances anyway!

It's a shame you you got sucked into the Scamsoil cult!!!!

The only way to get a substantial increase in performance out of an engine is to:
1) Increase compression, and modify cam parameters (lift, duration, and overlap)
2) Increase displacement
3) Go to forced induction


All of these cost big $$$, and don't even start to get into the other driveline components that will need upgrading for the increased power & torque!!


Now, to sum up this thread, don't waste your money on e-fans!!!!!!
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If your that worried about it, get rid of the AC compressor & PS pump!!!!

You are really asking for trouble with an electric water pump!!!

Some day you will realize a Ranger is not designed or built to be a race car!

I hate to see young people waste their money on useless "performance mods"!!
Alright Mr. Ayers. I'm FAR from young, And I have quite a bit of entertainment on making my truck move a tad bit quicker then half the rice on the road. I happen to even ' drift ' on occasion.

Heres a part of ' education ' you may have never attended class for : https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...php?userid=509

Your tomb of ' all knowing ' is starting to make you look like a fossil or someone whom doesn't follow modern physics. Modern Physics dictates a v6 vehical that weighs over 3000lbs runing an 8th mile in the 9's is pretty respectable, in fact, Its quicker then some of those dusty old ' race cars ' you happen to own out of the box.

The theme of ' No replacement for displacement ' still holds true, the rest has all been conquered.

Pics on the way folks. I need to dig them out.
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