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Old May 27, 2011
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Truck looks incredible! I love it!
 
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Old May 27, 2011
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NICE HOMIE!!

Great job Koyn.

New avatar now?
 
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Old May 27, 2011
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dammit boy, that is (.)(.)'s I'm interested in seeing the difference between the 37's pitbulls to my 35's. You didn't happen to measure them after you mounted them did you

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You know you're in for a trip to Hobbs when this is done right?
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Old May 27, 2011
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thanks every body

and to answer a few questions right now my caster is sitting at 8

the spring rates are 350/250 and they are sitting at exactly half stroke so I have 50/50 up and down travel

there are only 2 things im not happy with and they are the 2 things I didnt listen to Zach on...lol

I wanted the truck a little lower but the hoops are are running in to stuff, he told me to move the stuff and I said no
well needless to say I moved the stuff today, i cut the rad overflow box off the washer fluid box and remounted the washer box now I got plent of room

the second is the panhard bar he told me to just make a nice strait one, I didnt and now wish I would have
well.... I will be making a new one...lol
 
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Did you move the ABS pump around as well or ditch it?
 
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Old May 27, 2011
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I moved it, Im going to cut the hoops off and re-weld them this weekend

I can only lower it a couple inches because the hoops are only 14 inches tall
but if I raise the hoops more than that I will be loosing some of the shock stroke any way
so a couple inches is all I want to get
 
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Old May 27, 2011
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looks like ryan needs bigger tires lol
 
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Old May 28, 2011
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jebus, i hope you bought a ladder. your gonna need it dude.
 
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Old May 28, 2011
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Holy **** I love your truck!
 
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Old May 28, 2011
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Wow that looks absolutely amazing!
 
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Old May 30, 2011
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Towers those 37's.... I LOVE IT! Great work bro.
 
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Got some more pics of Koyn's truck today. Getting real close now.

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https://www.ranger-forums.com/snapshots-69/biltrites-sas-test-123491/
 
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thanks for posting the pitures Ryan
 
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No problem. Those welds are beautiful.
 
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Old May 30, 2011
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Originally Posted by BILTRITE BULLIES
thanks every body

and to answer a few questions right now my caster is sitting at 8

the spring rates are 350/250 and they are sitting at exactly half stroke so I have 50/50 up and down travel

there are only 2 things im not happy with and they are the 2 things I didnt listen to Zach on...lol

I wanted the truck a little lower but the hoops are are running in to stuff, he told me to move the stuff and I said no
well needless to say I moved the stuff today, i cut the rad overflow box off the washer fluid box and remounted the washer box now I got plent of room

the second is the panhard bar he told me to just make a nice strait one, I didnt and now wish I would have
well.... I will be making a new one...lol
lol! its all good man, sometimes you just have to learn for yourself. id say you did great! i really like the build. everything came out great by the looks of it. I really wish I could check it out in person.

Nice job!
 
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Old May 30, 2011
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Truck looks great but here is a huge problem and I know you have said it already...

You really need to get that panhard mount on the axle raised. The panhard must be parallel and the same or as close to the same length at the drag link. No other way around it.



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like this

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Old May 31, 2011
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Originally Posted by zabeard
Truck looks great but here is a huge problem and I know you have said it already...

You really need to get that panhard mount on the axle raised. The panhard must be parallel and the same or as close to the same length at the drag link. No other way around it.
Not to hi-jack the thread, but can I ask why that is? Does it prevent death wobble?
 
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Old May 31, 2011
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sure,

any type of front suspension that requires a panhard the front axle swings in a arc as it travels up and down. the panhard is fixed, it doesnt move so it controls the way the front axle arcs.

now once you throw a drag link into the mix and it is not the same length or arc it has to give. when it gives it will in turn turn the steering wheel. So you will give a wobble, poor steering response, bump steer, and steering joints that wear out really fast.

that is what is so cool about a triangulated front 4 link it moves up and down so the axle never shifts side to side, no bump steer etc. But you cant run a normal cross over steering, it has to be some special setup or full hydro.
 
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I know I should of listened to you...lol
I thought about it alot, I even had that balistic mount in the my cart a few times
I got plans to make a mount right off my c-gusset/shock mount deals should be strong enough
and that way it could be the same length and height as the draglink

after I lowered the front a couple inches it drives better as far as bumpsteer
I guess its because the draglink is flater now?

also my caster is like at 10-11 now, what is Ideal 5-6?

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Old May 31, 2011
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I believe it should be something like 4-5 no?
 
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Old May 31, 2011
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I thought it was 6
 
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Old May 31, 2011
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my caster is set at 4.5*
 
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Old May 31, 2011
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ok, thanks guys
I had a pair of 2 degree bushings but put these 7 degree ones on
because of every build thread I looked threw they needed the 7's... they were driving in to the ground
but with these cage arms and keeping it lower, I am in the opposite
 
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Old Jun 1, 2011
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I run 4.5 too.

I will say that no matter what you will more than likely have some bump steer and possible death wobble from time to time. Its common. I get it from time to time and I have a 3 link. Radius arms are even worse in that fashion. Either from tires, caster change, incorrect angles, etc..


I cant really find any good pictures of my current setup. If I could run it lower to the ground it would be nearly flat.

The other thing that you kind of want is the drag link and panhard to be parallel with the tie rod. But that is typically hard to get. lol
 
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